FO intentions for the offseason

[Bawse Dawg]

List of "almost guys" the FO could be targetting:

Ingram
Trae Young
Dejounte Murray
Tyler Herro
Jerami Grant
Anfernee Simons
Darius Garland
Zach Lavine
Demar Derozan
Kyle Kuzma

Definitely a few interesting names, I deleted the "hell no's"

How many assets are we cashing in to get one? If it's a good deal, I am totally fine with adding one of the above dudes and not going completely in the toilet next year and just building from there. Especially if it's Garland or Simons. But those dudes won't come cheap.

 

[KqWIN]

Definitely a few interesting names, I deleted the "hell no's"

How many assets are we cashing in to get one? If it's a good deal, I am totally fine with adding one of the above dudes and not going completely in the toilet next year and just building from there. Especially if it's Garland or Simons. But those dudes won't come cheap.

I guess it depends on who we trade for. Here would be my rough ranking from highest to lowest cost:

Trae Young
Darius Garland
Brandon Ingram
Tyler Herro
Anfernee Simons
Kyle Kuzma
Dejounte Murray
Zach Lavine
Jerami Grant
Demar Derozan (possible FA or S&T deal)

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I guess it depends on who we trade for. Here would be my rough ranking from highest to lowest cost:

Trae Young
Darius Garland
Brandon Ingram
Tyler Herro
Anfernee Simons
Kyle Kuzma
Dejounte Murray
Zach Lavine
Jerami Grant
Demar Derozan (possible FA or S&T deal)

Derozan would be a really interesting veteran presence/scorer to add to the team. I'd be fine with that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jazz have been pretty consistent about not wanting older players, so I doubt they are targeting anyone over 30.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess it depends on who we trade for. Here would be my rough ranking from highest to lowest cost:

Trae Young
Darius Garland
Brandon Ingram
Tyler Herro
Anfernee Simons
Kyle Kuzma
Dejounte Murray
Zach Lavine
Jerami Grant
Demar Derozan (possible FA or S&T deal)

Would probably have Dejounte above Herro personally. Kuzma's price is approximately what Dallas paid for Washington. He was supposedly headed there and said no thanks. That might be a price I'd be willing to pay.

So many guys don't necessarily fit with what Sexton is or what Key is projected to be.

 

[sip]

Yeah I think he'd just wait it out... Just thought maybe if he gets excited about someone at 10 that won't be there at 12. It would likely have to be something bigger. Probably can't entice him unless he really believes we aren't going to be good enough for the pick to convey.

Presti has shown to be willing to be aggressive when he has a target so it is certainly a possibility. Particularly if he thinks there is a 50/50 chance that our 1st never conveys which I think is probably the odds with how stacked the west is and I would expect it to look even more stacked in a few months when we see teams like the warriors and lakers make one last desperate win now move to appease their aging stars.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

So many guys don't necessarily fit with what Sexton is or what Key is projected to be.

I do have an issue with building the team trying to fit pieces in to what we have.

Besides Lauri, we have a bunch of question marks and nothing else. No one else on the team should inform any decisions for other players we try to acquire imo.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Jazz will make extending Lauri a high priority even if their goal is to trade him. Once he's extended, the Jazz can demand a lot for him.

 

[sip]

I guess it depends on who we trade for. Here would be my rough ranking from highest to lowest cost:

Trae Young
Darius Garland
Brandon Ingram
Tyler Herro
Anfernee Simons
Kyle Kuzma
Dejounte Murray
Zach Lavine
Jerami Grant
Demar Derozan (possible FA or S&T deal)

Dejounte is way too low. I think he would cost more than everyone besides Young.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do have an issue with building the team trying to fit pieces in to what we have.

Besides Lauri, we have a bunch of question marks and nothing else. No one else on the team should inform any decisions for other players we try to acquire imo.

Yes and no. If we are building from the middle I do think some care should be taken for fit. Like if a guy doesn't fit well with Sexton now then he likely isn't a great fit with Key. We want our young players to play and progress as well. Getting Simons (who I like) kind of slows Key's development.

if they get Herro/Simons or someone else I would hope they move JC/Sexton. Like we don't want a Collins situation where he doesn't mesh with Kessler/Lauri and now you are hamstrung a bit. We have to consider winning and the full asset base of the franchise imo. With the draft I am mostly just bpa. With trades I think you have to consider fit a bit more with whatever pieces you are developing or hope to have long term. You can sort some of it later.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm just going on what Dejounte's price was reported to be at the deadline, but he definitely could have increased his value by balling out the second half of the season.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Yes and no. If we are building from the middle I do think some care should be taken for fit. Like if a guy doesn't fit well with Sexton now then he likely isn't a great fit with Key. We want our young players to play and progress as well. Getting Simons (who I like) kind of slows Key's development.

if they get Herro/Simons or someone else I would hope they move JC/Sexton. Like we don't want a Collins situation where he doesn't mesh with Kessler/Lauri and now you are hamstrung a bit. We have to consider winning and the full asset base of the franchise imo. With the draft I am mostly just bpa. With trades I think you have to consider fit a bit more with whatever pieces you are developing or hope to have long term. You can sort some of it later.

I just don't see Sexton or Key as dudes you have to make sure you reserve a big role for them in the team of the future. Let them earn that with their play.

Slowing Key's development could also be called giving Key less chucker leash, and making him learn how to fit within a team that is trying and hopefully succeeding at winning some basketball games.