Court: California gay marriage ban is unconstitutional

[NUMBERICA]

I heard a lot of talk about the demise of the family and by proxy our American civilization.

That's theoretical/fear-mongering, without any actual explanation as to how we arrive at that end.

 

[Stoked]

That's theoretical/fear-mongering, without any actual explanation as to how we arrive at that end.

Yes and no depending on how you mean this. I think we are seeing the downfall of the family. That will have a crushing impact on our society from which it may not recover.

I do not think gays marrying is any way party to that downfall.

 

[Stoked]

Now F all this marriage, gay, religious, jazz and anything else talk. I'm out. Vegas baby!....

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yes and no depending on how you mean this. I think we are seeing the downfall of the family. That will have a crushing impact on our society from which it may not recover.

I do not think gays marrying is any way party to that downfall.

As I said earlier (as a joke) 'Fact: All civilizations that are now extinct had gay people, therefore, gay people sewed the seeds of their destruction'

Correlation =/= Cause

 

[Gameface]

Now you want government involved in "homosexual relationship regulation" again.

There is no such "individual" right to get any relationship recognized as marriage by government.

Marriage has always been restricted to one man and one woman. How has this suddenly become "unconstitutional?"

So homosexuals want the "preferential tax treatment" of being stay at home mommies? Makes sense.

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?

The right is to have the government not prohibit a specific type of consensual relationship. Rights, in my view, provide for a freedom of action by an individual. Rights do not provide goods or services to individuals. The government is the protector of our rights. In this case they are not only not protecting the rights of gay couples, they are prohibiting gay people from exercising their freedom to marry each other. I'd like them to stop.

 

[Gameface]

You mean like smoking, gambling, drinking, eating junkfood, etc.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

 

[Archie Moses]

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?.

Link?

 

[PearlWatson]

Marriage has not always been defined as one man and one woman. Where the hell do you get this from?

The right is to have the government not prohibit a specific type of consensual relationship. Rights, in my view, provide for a freedom of action by an individual. Rights do not provide goods or services to individuals. The government is the protector of our rights. In this case they are not only not protecting the rights of gay couples, they are prohibiting gay people from exercising their freedom to marry each other. I'd like them to stop.

The government ain't prohibiting homosexual relationships.

Homosexuals can have a "spiritual bond" marriage all they want. Just like the Polygamists have "spirit" wives.

 

[craig2112]

Funny. All the pro-gay people here keep saying that allowing gay marriage won't hurt anyone.

Well, then NOT allowing it won't hurt anyone either.

 

[kwb]

Funny. All the pro-gay people here keep saying that allowing gay marriage won't hurt anyone.

Well, then NOT allowing it won't hurt anyone either.

Wrong. That's a fact.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Funny. All the pro-gay people here keep saying that allowing gay marriage won't hurt anyone.

Well, then NOT allowing it won't hurt anyone either.

Except gay people. Try to keep up here.

 

[PearlWatson]

Except gay people. Try to keep up here.

Dude they will save a lot of money on the wedding alone...not to mention the divorce.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Dude they will save a lot of money on the wedding alone...not to mention the divorce.

So +1 for being gay: It's more cost effective.

 

[craig2112]

Hmmm, so is Jazzfanz just a gay site for gay people to get together?
i didn't get the memo, but someone here has already tried to pick up on me, and seeing all this pro-gay propoganda, just makes me wonder.

Hey, if it is, maybe you should all make it a less obvious.

 

[craig2112]

Wrong. That's a fact.

Ok, it's a FACT that not allowing gay marriage won't hurt anyone.

 

[kwb]

Ok, it's a FACT that not allowing gay marriage won't hurt anyone.

You're not seeing what I did there. Damn it.

 

[Gameface]

Link?

https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marriage

mar·riage

   [mar-ij] Show IPAnoun1.a.the social institution under which a man and womanestablish their decision to live as husband and wife bylegal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.Antonyms: separation.

b.a similar institution involving partners of the samegender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.



2.the state, condition, or relationship of being married;wedlock: a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony.Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood,singleness; separation.

3.the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision oftwo people to live as a married couple, including theaccompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding.Antonyms: divorce, annulment.

4.a relationship in which two people have pledged themselvesto each other in the manner of a husband and wife, withoutlegal sanction: trial marriage.

5.


any close or intimate association or union: the marriage ofwords and music in a hit song. Synonyms: blend, merger,unity, oneness; alliance, confederation. Antonyms:separation, division, disunion, schism.​

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage

mar·riage

noun \ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\



Definition of MARRIAGE

1
a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlockc : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage

2
: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities

3



: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage


I'm glad that wasn't hard.

Does anyone else find it amusing to have LDS people saying marriage has always been defined as involving one man and one woman?

 

[Archie Moses]

So give me some examples of gay marriages in the US and their dates. Because, you know, it's
always been a part of US marriage, or no?

Anyone else find it funny that people can't accept that marriages have been defined between a man and a woman/en until recently?

Btw, I'm not against gay marriage.

 

[PearlWatson]

So +1 for being gay: It's more cost effective.

Also:

You don't have to deal with the opposite sex.
No chance of producing offspring.
You can share clothes.
No fights over the position of the toilet lid.

 

[PearlWatson]

Does anyone else find it amusing to have LDS people saying marriage has always been defined as involving one man and one woman?

Oh you are referencing that time where Mormons were polygamists and the Feds came in with an army, removed their prophet from political power, took voting rights away from women, incarcerated the husbands/fathers and drove families apart....all in order to stop them from changing marriage from one man and one woman to one man and a bunch of women.