Ace Bailey ROY watch

[seattlejazzfan]

I mean I guess that is cool, but I get tired of these "youngest to do whatever" when the whatever is some random stat no one considers meaningful at all. Hey guys he is the youngest, by 3 days, to record 20 pts, EXACTLY 3 rebounds and 2 assists in EXACTLY 32 minutes of game time on a Tuesday in November while being guarded by another rookie who scored 10 points in a single quarter! Can you believe it?!??!

i understand and agree with your point to an extent. it is a cherry picked, aged-based "record", no question. but it also isn't THAT obscure, random or specific. 20 ppg is a pretty general line to draw. the 4 threes is a tad more specific/cherry picked, but it's just two numbers that are fairly meaningful. 3pt made and 20+ ppg isn't that bad in terms of cherry picking numbers. is it very meaningful in any way? no, it's not. is it a kinda cool stat? yes.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Ace looks awesome. No chucker instinct on display and his shot looks like butter. His ability to free himself up / create space to get shots off really pops.

We've got a few "score-first" minded guys but with the right usage rate he's a 25ppg guy and a super tough cover.

I've been impressed with his cutting and his ability to pass on the move. He's showing understanding of how to fit in and get others involved.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

I don't care if he is ROY. He clearly has some talent to go with his length. Once he builds up some strength, tightens his handle and learns the NBA game, he is going to be a star.

 

[framer]

I don't care if he is ROY. He clearly has some talent to go with his length. Once he builds up some strength, tightens his handle and learns the NBA game, he is going to be a star.

The best part is that we don't have to wait for "flashes." He is consistently good as a baseline. Not sure we have had a rookie like that since Karl Malone. Maybe D-Will?

 

[LogGrad98]

i understand and agree with your point to an extent. it is a cherry picked, aged-based "record", no question. but it also isn't THAT obscure, random or specific. 20 ppg is a pretty general line to draw. the 4 threes is a tad more specific/cherry picked, but it's just two numbers that are fairly meaningful. 3pt made and 20+ ppg isn't that bad in terms of cherry picking numbers. is it very meaningful in any way? no, it's not. is it a kinda cool stat? yes.

Yeah I wasn't actually commenting as much on that one metric as just the tendency to do this in general, and how stupid it can get.

 

[slc]

i understand and agree with your point to an extent. it is a cherry picked, aged-based "record", no question. but it also isn't THAT obscure, random or specific. 20 ppg is a pretty general line to draw. the 4 threes is a tad more specific/cherry picked, but it's just two numbers that are fairly meaningful. 3pt made and 20+ ppg isn't that bad in terms of cherry picking numbers. is it very meaningful in any way? no, it's not. is it a kinda cool stat? yes.

It is kinda cool He out did LeBron, Luka, Giannis, Wemby, etc for this meaningless stat

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Yeah I wasn't actually commenting as much on that one metric as just the tendency to do this in general, and how stupid it can get.

oh sorry. yeah, i agree 100%.

 

[infection]

Yeah I wasn't actually commenting as much on that one metric as just the tendency to do this in general, and how stupid it can get.

I remember all the monster anomalies for Kanter and Favors during their first couple years. There'd be a lot more too now because of how much more data is mined now some 13 or 14 years later.

 

[Jaanipoeg]

The best part is that we don't have to wait for "flashes." He is consistently good as a baseline. Not sure we have had a rookie like that since Karl Malone. Maybe D-Will?

I mean, Donovan Mitchell had a very electric rookie season with a high baseline.

Love what I am seeing from Ace. Partially it's recovering from the flu, but still feels like he is getting better with every game

 

[str8line]

View: https://x.com/PolymarketHoops/status/1989193430577344984

...while wearing underoos.

 

[bigmike]

I've been impressed with his cutting and his ability to pass on the move. He's showing understanding of how to fit in and get others involved.

Agree with this. He moves really well without the ball. Instinctive cutter + spacer of the floor.

He is a gifted and instinctive offensive player.

 

[cowhide]

What has happened to Harper? I have checked the box score the last 2 games and didn't even see his name listed at all.
He injured?

He has a calf strain injury.

 

[default]

The best part is that we don't have to wait for "flashes." He is consistently good as a baseline. Not sure we have had a rookie like that since Karl Malone. Maybe D-Will?

Donovan Mitchell

 

[fishonjazz]

He has a calf strain injury.

I work they would list the player and the injury right there in the box score

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

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He's that rapper who named himself after a latte.

 

[outerspacefan]

I mean, Donovan Mitchell had a very electric rookie season with a high baseline.

And very electric probably falls short. As a rook dude was the legitimate anchor for a team that was sportingly and psychologically devastated.
In my mind he's second to no one in rook impact.

 

[framer]

And very electric probably falls short. As a rook dude was the legitimate anchor for a team that was sportingly and psychologically devastated.
In my mind he's second to no one in rook impact.

Karl Malone was good enough that we traded the past all star league scoring leader ahead of him after one season. That seems important, although the Jazz were also skinflints back then.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kon has a pretty nice lead in ROTY. He's been efficient, high scoring, and is helping to drive some wins.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kon is averaging 21-8-4 in November. Holy smokes.