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PKM said:
That's why I felt that the need for ID should be held off until 2016. That would give people more than enough time to get some paperwork done. This election was too early for that and a shame it was passed the way it did.
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That's still too early. Better make it 2020.
 
I agree that there are problems with the current ovting ID laws. She is a prime example of a case that there should be simple allowances written into the law for. She should have easily, and cheaply or even free, obtained a state ID. It frustrates me that our "leaders" cannot look past their own delusions of self importance to actually fix things.
 
PKM said:
That's why I felt that the need for ID should be held off until 2016. That would give people more than enough time to get some paperwork done. This election was too early for that and a shame it was passed the way it did.
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Seems like a good compromise.
 
PKM said:
That's why I felt that the need for ID should be held off until 2016. That would give people more than enough time to get some paperwork done. This election was too early for that and a shame it was passed the way it did.
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This would have still been an issue. The specific cases of disenfranchisement probably wouldn't have made the news, but would have still happened.
 
SaltyDawg said:
This would have still been an issue. The specific cases of disenfranchisement probably wouldn't have made the news, but would have still happened.
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Not if what we are actually saying went into effect. You are bassing your reply off the current laws. Obviously the current laws are not comprehensive enough.
 
SaltyDawg said:
This would have still been an issue. The specific cases of disenfranchisement probably wouldn't have made the news, but would have still happened.
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I realize this is an unpopular notion, but I don't care. If people are made aware and have more than 4 years to get an ID, but don't .. tough. I have no sympathy under that scenario.
 
PKM said:
I realize this is an unpopular notion, but I don't care. If people are made aware and have more than 4 years to get an ID, but don't .. tough. I have no sympathy under that scenario.
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Unpopular or not I am with you. As long as they have the opportunity it is up to them. If they fail to do so that is their problem. I am not their babysitter. I agree 100%
 
northeast said:
oh yea, that's right, you guys don't want poor people voting so we can elect someone who only cares about rich people
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SaltyDawg said:
This would have still been an issue. The specific cases of disenfranchisement probably wouldn't have made the news, but would have still happened.
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Stoked said:
Not if what we are actually saying went into effect. You are bassing your reply off the current laws. Obviously the current laws are not comprehensive enough.
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PKM said:
I realize this is an unpopular notion, but I don't care. If people are made aware and have more than 4 years to get an ID, but don't .. tough. I have no sympathy under that scenario.
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Stoked said:
Unpopular or not I am with you. As long as they have the opportunity it is up to them. If they fail to do so that is their problem. I am not their babysitter. I agree 100%
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Contradicting...


Anyway, apparently you guys didn't read what was posted. Many people CAN'T get the required id, even though they are legal Americans.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Contradicting...


Anyway, apparently you guys didn't read what was posted. Many people CAN'T get the required id, even though they are legal Americans.
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If you don't mind sparing me the trouble of finding the link again, what reasons are given for the inability to get an ID?
 
PKM said:
If you don't mind sparing me the trouble of finding the link again, what reasons are given for the inability to get an ID?
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Here are a few...

Revolution 9 said:
93-Year-Old Tennessee Woman Who Cleaned State Capitol For 30 Years Denied Voter ID
By Marie Diamond

Tennessee's Capitol building in Nashville.
A 93-year-old Tennessee woman who cleaned the state Capitol for 30 years, including the governor’s office, says she won’t be able to vote for the first time in decades after being told this week that her old state ID failed to meet new voter ID regulations.
Thelma Mitchell was even accused of being an undocumented immigrant because she couldn’t produce a birth certificate:
Mitchell, who was delivered by a midwife in Alabama in 1918, has never had a birth certificate. But when she told that to a drivers’ license clerk, he suggested she might be an illegal immigrant.
Thelma Mitchell told WSMV-TV that she went to a state drivers’ license center last week after being told that her old state ID from her cleaning job would not meet new regulations for voter identification.
A spokesman for the House Republican Caucus insisted that Mitchell was given bad information and should’ve been allowed to vote, even with an expired state ID. But even if that’s the case, her ordeal illustrates the inevitable disenfranchisements that result when confusing voting laws enable state officials to apply the law inconsistently.
The incident is the just latest in a series of reports of senior citizens being denied their constitutional right to vote under restrictive new voter ID laws pushed by Republican governors and legislatures. These laws are a transparent attempt to target Democrat constituencies who are less likely to have photo ID’s, and disproportionately affect seniors, college students, the poor and minorities.
As ThinkProgress reported, one 96-year-old Tennessee woman was denied a voter ID because she didn’t have her marriage license. Another senior citizen in Tennessee, 91-year-old Virginia Lasater, couldn’t get the ID she needed to vote because she wasn’t able to stand in a long line at the DMV. A Tennessee agency even told a 86-year-old World War II veteran that he had to pay an unconstitutional poll tax if he wanted to obtain an ID.
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