What Is Gordon's Ceiling???
- Thread starter SojoDave
- Start date
Cons:
Inconsistent shooter
Inconsistent defender
Inconsistent passer
Inconsistent dribbler
Inconsistent vision and movement
Pros:
Almost made a shot to win a championship at the last level
Inconsistent shooter
Inconsistent defender
Inconsistent passer
Inconsistent dribbler
Inconsistent vision and movement
Pros:
Almost made a shot to win a championship at the last level
Sell high.
He's a short AK47, without half the defensive prowess, way worse shooter, & nowhere near the court vision or passing ability. He does get to the line at a good clip like AK though, but still not as well. AK was better than Hayward will ever be in every facet of the game and only made one All Star game. Hayward never will.
The only thing left to make him the most frustrating player on the Jazz is a very long, very overpriced contract.
He's a short AK47, without half the defensive prowess, way worse shooter, & nowhere near the court vision or passing ability. He does get to the line at a good clip like AK though, but still not as well. AK was better than Hayward will ever be in every facet of the game and only made one All Star game. Hayward never will.
The only thing left to make him the most frustrating player on the Jazz is a very long, very overpriced contract.
Staying healthy?
spycam1
Well-Known Member
If his jump shot stays inconsistent, I say he'll be a 15/4/4 player. If he ever manages to figure out his shot--say, 36% consistently--then, I think he can get those numbers up to something like 18/4/4.
Although, it's not just his shot that will be key to him reaching his potential, he needs to be used properly.
Although, it's not just his shot that will be key to him reaching his potential, he needs to be used properly.
I still think he has a fairly high ceiling because he can improve in so many areas. Mainly ball-handling and shooting, both spot-up and off the dribble. Those two things and then finishing around the basket would make him a very good player. Then get him and favors in the pick and roll, and him and kanter in the pick and pop potentially. Why isn't burks rubbing off the guy in the post on the baseline for a handoff opportunity like the jazz used to do? Seems like a perfect role for him
Most players don't improve very much on their core skills after their 3 years. I don't think Hayward is going to become much more than he is now. He is a good useful player but never a star.
NAOS
Well-Known Member
I've given up on him ever being a finisher in traffic. But, if you have to deeply respect his 3-pnt shot (which he has all the mechanics to do, etc.) and he develops a good scoring offense around the PnR (which he most certainly can do if the offense helps him a bit more + with repetition), then he can become much better.
His ceiling:
Take an AK47 but less dominant defensively (particularly blocks and his defensive versatility), combine with Manu, and Harden. Then give him a ball that has a tack jammed in it to make it bounce crookedly. Take away the ability to consistently create off of the dribble, and finally take away the general activity of these players in most aspects of the game. This is who Hayward is.
Take an AK47 but less dominant defensively (particularly blocks and his defensive versatility), combine with Manu, and Harden. Then give him a ball that has a tack jammed in it to make it bounce crookedly. Take away the ability to consistently create off of the dribble, and finally take away the general activity of these players in most aspects of the game. This is who Hayward is.
NAOS
Well-Known Member
For old time's sake, can you explain the production of this player in neo-punk Marxist terms?
Thanks in advance.
