jope
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Even Paul, who is having the worst shooting season of his career is at 1.29 pps
Kanter -1.2 pps
Favors - 1.26 pps
(none of these are that great, but for a 15 mill 1St option Al's efficiency is awful)
I love Al Jefferson Thread
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Even Paul, who is having the worst shooting season of his career is at 1.29 pps
Kanter -1.2 pps
Favors - 1.26 pps
(none of these are that great, but for a 15 mill 1St option Al's efficiency is awful)
Is this due to the lack of FT's?
sgt.mac.1981
Member
That is part of it. Also taking lower percentage jumpers instead of fighting to the rim for layups.
1. Al as a person = great, great guy and wants to be here
2. As a leader = ok
3. As a competitor = much to be desired and this is who he is, was a loser for too long
4. Someone who puts up numbers and has nice moves = pretty damn good
5. Defensive presence anywhere but in the post = pins and needles every time you watch him
In short, he is a great guy who is maddeningly flawed, but could be very valuable in the right situation.
2. As a leader = ok
3. As a competitor = much to be desired and this is who he is, was a loser for too long
4. Someone who puts up numbers and has nice moves = pretty damn good
5. Defensive presence anywhere but in the post = pins and needles every time you watch him
In short, he is a great guy who is maddeningly flawed, but could be very valuable in the right situation.
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Al is what he is, and he's still improving as a player. He's come a long way even since getting to Utah. I don't think the problem is Al directly. The first problem is that the Jazz are playing him at center when he really plays more like a PF. He doesn't play the pivot and likes to stay just outside the lane on both ends. The other problem is that Al should be a 2nd option on offense, but the Jazz don't have an elite scorer, so he becomes the first option, and the game slows down to let him operate. If Al were playing in LA with Kobe or playing in Miami with Lebron, he'd be a solid 2nd option to score in single coverage. He'd play a bit of pick and roll, he'd score from 8 - 10 feet, and everything would be fine. He'd basically be like Zach Randolph in Memphis. He wouldn't have to go down to the block and be option 1 on every other possession. However, the Jazz have no true first-option on offense and have to rely on Al. This is probably also why Al takes plays off on defense.
On defense, he's not an elite defender, or even a good defender. He's okay in post coverage. But again, he's not really a center. If Favors is on the court, then Favors anchors the defense and we don't get torched. Now that Favors' offense is finally starting to come around, we can play Favors and Jefferson together and not really lose much if anything offensively by taking Millsap off the floor.
Overall, I think people are just expecting too much from Al. You want a 20-10 guy who works hard on defense, plays in the flow of the game, scores efficiently, gets to the line, and doesn't really have any flaws. There just aren't many, or any, of those players in the league. If we had Blake Griffin, people would be complaining about his lack of offensive moves and lazy defense. Chris Bosh is still soft and doesn't defend or rebound all that well. Etc.
On defense, he's not an elite defender, or even a good defender. He's okay in post coverage. But again, he's not really a center. If Favors is on the court, then Favors anchors the defense and we don't get torched. Now that Favors' offense is finally starting to come around, we can play Favors and Jefferson together and not really lose much if anything offensively by taking Millsap off the floor.
Overall, I think people are just expecting too much from Al. You want a 20-10 guy who works hard on defense, plays in the flow of the game, scores efficiently, gets to the line, and doesn't really have any flaws. There just aren't many, or any, of those players in the league. If we had Blake Griffin, people would be complaining about his lack of offensive moves and lazy defense. Chris Bosh is still soft and doesn't defend or rebound all that well. Etc.
Good post....This is why the Jazz might consider re-signing him.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
I have no dog (is that the right animal?) in this fight but from the handful of games I've watched this year, Jefferson looks much more in shape. More explosive geenrally speaking. Not as soft in the body and face. IF we are to decide to re-sign him, I REALLY hope he works his *** off just as much or even more next summer. That coupled with a new coach who actually knows how to teach defense could make him quite respectable.
Lenny Lennord
New Member
I'd rather not take that risk of resigning him because we all know that corbin will still be around unfortunately
I'm all for the Utah Jazz, not jefferson, kanter or favors. And if we gave favors and kanter more mins, they would not be as productive as Al. Al is our best offensive player by far. He's basically unstoppable in a iso down low. Favors and kanter cannot create their own shot, they are not ready. It seems a lot of posters are more about developing players than trying to win...smh
Since we're all sharing, I actually think Jefferson is the most skilled offensive bigman in the league, and the only person that can stop Al Jefferson is himself. The problem is that he allows himself to be pushed out of the paint and settles for jumpshots. If he didn't settle and didn't allow himself to be bullied, he would be truly amazing offensively. He's also a decent passer for a bigman and is a solid rebounder even if he doesn't always boxout.
Actually, Kanter commands a double team a ton. He just flounders when it comes.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
Sadly, you're likely correct.
this is about right, imo.
seems like people wanna hate him because we don't have anything better. favors and kanter are not there yet, not even close.
Brown Notes
Well-Known Member
From the observable evidence it seems very likely that both Corbs and Jeffs will be here beginning next season. Corbin has pretty solidly hitched his wagon to Al, was hired and extended by KOC, who was promoted by Greg, who himself was on the court getting involved in a T situation just a couple games ago. They want to build continuity and culture, and these are the guys they believe in.
DutchJazzer
Banned
Boozer isn't as reliable a scorer as Jefferson imo. DWill made Boozer look better than he is by getting him the ball in the few spots he could score.
JimLes
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Only if you consider shouting like a threatened hippopotamus every time you snag a rebound better than good old quiet rebounding.