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Cool... So are you for or against Monsanto??

Lulz.

I do think they have some shaky business ethics (but who doesn't?), and I also think that they get a worse rep than they deserve.

Whether we like it or not, GMO's are the future of farming. There does need to be more testing done for human safety, but those types of tests require ~20 years of research. We don't have that time. There's a rapidly growing population, and crops need to be able to yield a certain amount to be able to feed the world. GMO's are a necessary evil that absolutely need to be tested further, but we didn't really have a choice on that one. It is what it is.

I'll also add that some of what Monsanto has done is absolutely revolutionary. By no means should we be taking away from some the stunning research that they are doing. Personally, I think they've done more good than bad, but I suppose that isn't what matters.
 
Lulz.

I do think they have some shaky business ethics (but who doesn't?), and I also think that they get a worse rep than they deserve.

Whether we like it or not, GMO's are the future of farming. There does need to be more testing done for human safety, but those types of tests require ~20 years of research. We don't have that time. There's a rapidly growing population, and crops need to be able to yield a certain amount to be able to feed the world. GMO's are a necessary evil that absolutely need to be tested further, but we didn't really have a choice on that one. It is what it is.

I'll also add that some of what Monsanto has done is absolutely revolutionary. By no means should we be taking away from some the stunning research that they are doing. Personally, I think they've done more good than bad, but I suppose that isn't what matters.

I'm kinda in the same boat...

My Boss, head of biology department here at Dixie State University, is a Geneticist and thinks they are the great evil of the world!!! I find it a bit humorous! I understand where he's coming from, but GMOs are the only thing making a dent in world hunger!!!
 
I'm kinda in the same boat...

My Boss, head of biology department here at Dixie State University, is a Geneticist and thinks they are the great evil of the world!!! I find it a bit humorous! I understand where he's coming from, but GMOs are the only thing making a dent in world hunger!!!

Your boss is an idiot.

Several of my teachers are some of the leading wheat geneticists in our region, and even they wouldn't say Monsanto is evil. What Monsanto is doing from a research standpoint is incredible IMO.
 
Your boss is an idiot.

Several of my teachers are some of the leading wheat geneticists in our region, and even they wouldn't say Monsanto is evil. What Monsanto is doing from a research standpoint is incredible IMO.

I'm pretty sure the head of a genetics department probable knows a little more than you do regarding this topic, or the dangers of GMOs in general.


Europe is being super-cautios with GMOs, all with required-labelling on everything that has a GMO ingredient in it. Personally, I would go that same route with food in America. There is no reason that we don't deserve the right to know what has genetically-modified soya oil, for example.


From the outside looking in, and from the standpoint of a Genetics major who truly doesn't know enough about the subject to really defend my stance, I think I side with Zulu's boss.



PS: Welcome back, Hantlers. Chelsey is still waiting to meet you........ ;)
 
I'm pretty sure the head of a genetics department probable knows a little more than you do regarding this topic, or the dangers of GMOs in general.


Europe is being super-cautios with GMOs, all with required-labelling on everything that has a GMO ingredient in it. Personally, I would go that same route with food in America. There is no reason that we don't deserve the right to know what has genetically-modified soya oil, for example.


From the outside looking in, and from the standpoint of a Genetics major who truly doesn't know enough about the subject to really defend my stance, I think I side with Zulu's boss.



PS: Welcome back, Hantlers. Chelsey is still waiting to meet you........ ;)

Sandy (cough cough), I've had several in-depth discussions with some of the leading wheat geneticists of our region. I would wager that they have a pretty damn good idea what they're talking about, especially since one of our schools main functions is agriculture research.

Nobody really knows the dangers or benefits of GMO's, because there hasn't been sufficient time to study them. That's the main problem. That's why Europe is being cautious. Besides, I could easily argue that technically every single food we eat is genetically modified since every crop we grow has been cross-bred, and cross-breeding is a form of genetic modification. Like I said, it would be nice if we had the time to research all of these GMO's, but we just don't. We have to concentrate on actually feeding people.
 
Sandy (cough cough), I've had several in-depth discussions with some of the leading wheat geneticists of our region. I would wager that they have a pretty damn good idea what they're talking about, especially since one of our schools main functions is agriculture research.

Nobody really knows the dangers or benefits of GMO's, because there hasn't been sufficient time to study them. That's the main problem. That's why Europe is being cautious. Besides, I could easily argue that technically every single food we eat is genetically modified since every crop we grow has been cross-bred, and cross-breeding is a form of genetic modification. Like I said, it would be nice if we had the time to research all of these GMO's, but we just don't. We have to concentrate on actually feeding people.

You sound like a smart dude. Not sure why some posters here are giving you a hard time.
 
Sandy (cough cough), I've had several in-depth discussions with some of the leading wheat geneticists of our region. I would wager that they have a pretty damn good idea what they're talking about, especially since one of our schools main functions is agriculture research.

Nobody really knows the dangers or benefits of GMO's, because there hasn't been sufficient time to study them. That's the main problem. That's why Europe is being cautious. Besides, I could easily argue that technically every single food we eat is genetically modified since every crop we grow has been cross-bred, and cross-breeding is a form of genetic modification. Like I said, it would be nice if we had the time to research all of these GMO's, but we just don't. We have to concentrate on actually feeding people.

I think my bosses biggest beef with Monsanto is its business practice and how they create sterile crops!

But I'm definitely going to ask what he specifically dislikes about them!!
 
Sandy (cough cough), I've had several in-depth discussions with some of the leading wheat geneticists of our region. I would wager that they have a pretty damn good idea what they're talking about, especially since one of our schools main functions is agriculture research.

Nobody really knows the dangers or benefits of GMO's, because there hasn't been sufficient time to study them. That's the main problem. That's why Europe is being cautious. Besides, I could easily argue that technically every single food we eat is genetically modified since every crop we grow has been cross-bred, and cross-breeding is a form of genetic modification. Like I said, it would be nice if we had the time to research all of these GMO's, but we just don't. We have to concentrate on actually feeding people.


This all makes sense.


Still, the business ethics that Zulu mention do suck. I mean really? Selling sterile seeds to developing countries? I mean I understand that businesses need to make a profit to stay afloat, but we're talking food here. Sigh.
 
And you told Chelsey about me? Lulz, completely forgot about that.

True story, me and her actually dated for a bit.






It was a disaster. Anyone who said that age is just a number was lying.


We both definitely had completely different mindsets in terms of what we wanted.

She was hot though, alas.
 
This is like someone who speaks English (only) hearing someone speak in French and complimenting them on speaking it so eloquently and fluently.

Amen. Does me being able to talk about bacterial cell signal transduction pathways via tyrosine receptor-kinases with Zulu, or taking about type II topoisomerases with franklin make me any smarter than someone like Bronco, or PKM? Not even close. The language analogy is spot on.
 
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