candrew
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And this would be pointed out only by a guy who was clearly wrong about Alec Burks for 2 and a half years.
Does Burks deserve to be a starter yet?
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And this would be pointed out only by a guy who was clearly wrong about Alec Burks for 2 and a half years.
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In before franklin says "alec was no good for those 2 and a half years and corbins teaching and coaching is the only reason burks is playing well now. Corbin has brought burks along perfectly"
I got those points the first several hundred times you posted them. I didn't understand what you were getting with this new Alec vs. Trey, Hayward, & Favors angle.
Also, BB-ref shows monthly minute logs as: Nov - 26.0, Dec. - 27.8, Jan. - 30.2. If you're complaining that his minutes went down by 46 seconds or whatever then not only is it meaningless but also incorrect. Per bb-ref.
I was never wrong on Alec. He has grown a lot in those 2 and a half years and we should all be happy that his work ethic and the coaching have earned him a solid amount of playing time. Corbin has brought Burks along at the perfect pace for Burks.
Burks has only had one mediocre month in his career. Those acting like he's an all star because he's outperforming his baseline are making a mountain out of a molehill at the moment.
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Amen brotha!!!
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Which month is that...
Last year when everyone got injured and he finally saw the floor or this December when he tore it up???
Zulu
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More Amo....
underKANTER
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Stupid question. As if Craperson or Mar-will-less deserve it more than Burks to start. Same with Kanter. Send Big boops Corbin's butt to the moon and get rid at least of Craperson and bring Mar-will-less of the bench.
Favors (34 mins)
Kanter (34 mins)
Hayward (36 mins)
Burks (32 mins)
Burke (30 mins)
Get some good playing time for Evans, Marwin and Gobert off the bench. We won't make it to the playoffs so I don't understand the reason for having sparks like Kanter or Burks coming off the bench. I hate Corbin's and Lindsey's philosophy of making Kanter and Burks the victims of this team because of two below average veteran role players as if we would be contenders.
Favors (34 mins)
Kanter (34 mins)
Hayward (36 mins)
Burks (32 mins)
Burke (30 mins)
Get some good playing time for Evans, Marwin and Gobert off the bench. We won't make it to the playoffs so I don't understand the reason for having sparks like Kanter or Burks coming off the bench. I hate Corbin's and Lindsey's philosophy of making Kanter and Burks the victims of this team because of two below average veteran role players as if we would be contenders.
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Who the hell are you talking about?
candrew
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And starting Randy Foye 72 times in front of Alec Burks last season was part of this "perfect pace"
The same Randy Foye who was ****ing humiliated last night by Burks....No, what I would call perfect is Burks' coming out party came against the same scrub Corbin insisted on playing in front of him in last year's abortion of a season.
Message received Coach Ty?
Co-signed.
Randy Foye was immeasurably better than Burks last season in talent alone, in addition to his much better fit next to Mo-Jefferson and in playing smart team defense.
Playing a raw Burks alongside Jefferson would have ruined Burks to even the most ardent homers. Corbin did them a huge service with all those DNPs.
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I hate to say this fish but actually Burks is getting more minutes than RJ in 34 games and an initial situation(all three player available, RJ and Gordon as starters and Alec of the bench).
Burks - Hayward - RJ comparison(34 games):
Burks: 27,6 MIN
Hayward: 36,3 MIN
RJ: 26,3 MIN
But it actually should be more clear than that. And it is a little odd that Burks minutes went down in the last 10 games [with an initial situation(all three player available, RJ and Gordon as starters and Alec of the bench)].
Burks - Hayward - RJ comparison(last 10 games):
Burks: 26,8 MIN
Hayward: 35,7 MIN
RJ: 27,4 MIN
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you think crobain finally got the message?
billyshelby
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I'd leave Burks in the second unit. He can build his confidence better that way. But I think it's absurd he doesn't average 30 plus. I'm always mystified when Burks plays 24 minutes while Hayward ALWAYS gets 37 even if he's shooting 4-14 which he often does.
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The simple answer is that - "Yes, Burks is ready to be a starter."
The ONLY way that this happens is if the team trades Gordon Hayward (not my favorite option because I still have a lot of faith in him being a key player for the Jazz) or if Hayward slides over to the SF position while Burks plays shooting guard. Right now, they play the same position. . . so something would have to give. Personally, the way that Gordon Hayward has played this season, I think that moving him over would strengthen two positions. He's a huge upgrade over Richard Jefferson and when given opportunities, Burks has played up to the same level (or higher) that Hayward has at shooting guard.
The ONLY way that this happens is if the team trades Gordon Hayward (not my favorite option because I still have a lot of faith in him being a key player for the Jazz) or if Hayward slides over to the SF position while Burks plays shooting guard. Right now, they play the same position. . . so something would have to give. Personally, the way that Gordon Hayward has played this season, I think that moving him over would strengthen two positions. He's a huge upgrade over Richard Jefferson and when given opportunities, Burks has played up to the same level (or higher) that Hayward has at shooting guard.
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His confidence didn't seem to be lacking against Denver. I think that it's high time that they turn the young guys loose and live or die with the results. I have a feeling that those results would make all of us Jazz fans feel a whole lot better about the future, even if the tankers (myself included) would have to watch the tank shrivel up and die.
We can analyze and project and spout numbers and predict how they would work out if they were all out there together. . . but the plain and simple fact is that we simply will never know unless Ty finally comes to the conclusion (on his own or by instruction of Lindsey) that they should all be playing together and getting the majority of the minutes.
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I would love to see how hayward does at small forward. (that is the position he was thought to play during his draft) Jefferson is not much (if any) bigger than hayward and he plays small forward.
This was supposed to be the season of experimentation/evaluation and i would love to see the core 5 starting together for a nice chunk of games just to see what would happen.
we know that will never happen with corbin as the coach.... not saying it would happen with different coach either, but with a different coach there would at least be a chance.