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Offensive rebounds > defensive rebounds imo
GVC
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What?
SF said Gordo had good lateral quickness, I disagreed. He asked me for proof beyond what I see watching games, I pointed to his pre-draft combine numbers.
Also, those numbers you posted are not lane agility numbers.
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GVC
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Not an excuse for anyone. Good players tend to play well, regardless of the quality of their coach. Posters on Jazzfanz have just overestimated the talent of the youth on the team.
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Archie Moses
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The guy doesn't say he's agreeing on the excuse part. If anything he's pointing out the multiple standards.
The first judgement is substantially true anyway, a lousy coach makes it very difficult to evaluate players accordingly. It's true as much as your notion of "good players tend to play" is.
Posters on Jazzfanz have just over-blamed certain players too.
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Blamed for what? People evaluate players based on their play. The fanboy logic is ridiculous.
Jeremy and Alec had no trouble playing well AND improving this season. Same goes for Marvin, Diante, and arguably RJ. Kanter has no one to blame for his poor play but himself.
Blamed for everything. Duh, is that even a serious question? Kanter was the scape goat for even the US government shut down, for God's sake.
Blame him for his poor play, not for literaly everything like the people did in this forum. That's the right way to go.
As for the fanboy logic.. If you objectively followed the board(go back and examine it if you haven't -or don't, who cares-) you should have seen the most harsh but fair critics were from the Turkish posters. But the ones that beyond that line were nothing but spilled hate from the guts of haters. And they were a lot.
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Complete ********. I'd love to see an example.
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Agreed.
Kanter's play and attitude speaks for itself. Same goes for the other players on the team.
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really really excited to see Kanter play next season. Probably more-so than any other player.
GVC
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How is that relevant?
What posters on Jazzfanz say about a player beyond their evaluation of his game is equally irrelevant. Unfortunately, no number of excuses can make up for Kanter's poor play this season.
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Dude, this is Dalamon's shtick.
Who is defending Kanter's poor play, once again?
Tarkanian pointed at a double standard, you misunderstood him and I supported him to clear it. You said that the posters overestimated the players, I said that they over-blamed some of them as well.
You see, it's a dialog. One things lead to another. There was a song like that btw.
Then you wanted an example, I said who cares, go find your example. Then you played a little word game and said "Agreed, Kanter's attitude blah blah". Then I said, Kanter's attitude is better than yours. The guy is a hell of a fun dude.
You see, everything is relevant.
Now for the serious exchange, the biggest liable person for the poor play of Kanter is, himself. But you can not disregard the Corbin Effect. It's much more significant than the Butterfly Effect. Believe me you don't even need to think that hard to be able to see it.
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I'm a fan of Trey and think he'll have a solid career. I want him to be great as much as the next JF, but I can also see he's never going to be a special player. I want to trade him because he's replaceable and because his value is likely never going to be higher than it is right now -- he still has that young potential allure.
There's this weird phenomenon unique to the NBA in that solid veteran players can be had for bargains. If Trey is going to be a Mo or a Devin then I want to sign a comparable Mo or Devin at Mo & Devin rates of a couple mill per.
Trey ain't getting traded tho, and I'll always be a fan in the small chance he is.
GVC
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I didn't misunderstand him, I was just stating that I don't think the coach is an excuse for anyone. There were players who played well and improved, there were players who played poorly and regressed. I think it's disingenuous to give credit to the players for improvement while blaming the coach for lack of improvement.
Undersized joke?