I think Paul is lucky if he is 6'8". One reason MN got rid of Jefferson is because they felt it made them undersized so not saying you have a point there. I would like to see more Jefferson/Memo and Millsap/Elson or Fes combos out there. This would give us more size.
Where did Paul Millsap go?
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I think Paul is lucky if he is 6'8". One reason MN got rid of Jefferson is because they felt it made them undersized so not saying you have a point there. I would like to see more Jefferson/Memo and Millsap/Elson or Fes combos out there. This would give us more size.
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Ok here are the numbers.
For the the season Paul is averaging:
PTS - 17.6
REB - 7.9
BLK - 0.9
STL - 1.5
AST - 1.4
Hardly the 20 and 10 guy someone claimed.
Over the first 21 games:
PTS - 18.4
REB - 8.4
BLK - 0.9
STL - 1.2
AST - 2.6
Over the last 10 games:
PTS - 16.1
REB - 6.9
BLK - 0.9
STL - 2.2
AST - 1.8
So over the past 10 games he is down in every category except steals and even in blocks. If you think about it, this kind of follows the pattern he set when he replaced Boozer. He had a big string of great games then just faded. Luckily it is not such a drop-off, but it is a lessening of his impact. I wonder what is going on with him too.
For the the season Paul is averaging:
PTS - 17.6
REB - 7.9
BLK - 0.9
STL - 1.5
AST - 1.4
Hardly the 20 and 10 guy someone claimed.
Over the first 21 games:
PTS - 18.4
REB - 8.4
BLK - 0.9
STL - 1.2
AST - 2.6
Over the last 10 games:
PTS - 16.1
REB - 6.9
BLK - 0.9
STL - 2.2
AST - 1.8
So over the past 10 games he is down in every category except steals and even in blocks. If you think about it, this kind of follows the pattern he set when he replaced Boozer. He had a big string of great games then just faded. Luckily it is not such a drop-off, but it is a lessening of his impact. I wonder what is going on with him too.
There are a myriad of problems Millsap has had to figure out that are unique to his more prominent role and minutes on the team
-He is undersized. He's strong enough, he's long enough, but only just and he's very short for the position.
-To compensate, he has had to outwork opponents as his bread-and-butter and do it against inferior competition
-Since he now plays against starters who are much more skilled and much more physically able (taller, faster, stronger, longer). Outworking those players night in and night out is much more difficult.
-Furthermore, he is firmly in the opponents scouting report/gameplan (or he should be, I can't understand why they give him his automatic top-of-the-key jumper seemingly every time).
-Outworking opponents every night becomes unrealistic when adding in the factor that he's playing 10 more MPG, again, against much better competition.
-He's had to compensate again by pacing his game, becoming more cerebral, and adding finesse and range to his game. He's done a very, very impressive job with that.
-Lost in the shuffle of all of this has been his rebounding. 8 RPG doesn't sound bad until you factor in the minutes he's played. He's actually below-average in % of rebounds grabbed and rebound rate for a big in the NBA. When you look at the competition, the scouting, and his pacing his game, maybe it was inevitable. But that doesn't make it any less frustrating. However, if Kevin Love can look like Dennis Rodman, I see no reason Millsap can't rebound more (their measurements are eerily similar).
Millsap has come a long way. He's far better than I think anyone realistically thought he could be. But he's not a pillar. If he didn't embody the spirit of this team and it's history (or at least what it should strive to be), I'd consider trading him for a true pillar. But for me, he's close to untouchable, even if he's not that other pillar.
-He is undersized. He's strong enough, he's long enough, but only just and he's very short for the position.
-To compensate, he has had to outwork opponents as his bread-and-butter and do it against inferior competition
-Since he now plays against starters who are much more skilled and much more physically able (taller, faster, stronger, longer). Outworking those players night in and night out is much more difficult.
-Furthermore, he is firmly in the opponents scouting report/gameplan (or he should be, I can't understand why they give him his automatic top-of-the-key jumper seemingly every time).
-Outworking opponents every night becomes unrealistic when adding in the factor that he's playing 10 more MPG, again, against much better competition.
-He's had to compensate again by pacing his game, becoming more cerebral, and adding finesse and range to his game. He's done a very, very impressive job with that.
-Lost in the shuffle of all of this has been his rebounding. 8 RPG doesn't sound bad until you factor in the minutes he's played. He's actually below-average in % of rebounds grabbed and rebound rate for a big in the NBA. When you look at the competition, the scouting, and his pacing his game, maybe it was inevitable. But that doesn't make it any less frustrating. However, if Kevin Love can look like Dennis Rodman, I see no reason Millsap can't rebound more (their measurements are eerily similar).
Millsap has come a long way. He's far better than I think anyone realistically thought he could be. But he's not a pillar. If he didn't embody the spirit of this team and it's history (or at least what it should strive to be), I'd consider trading him for a true pillar. But for me, he's close to untouchable, even if he's not that other pillar.
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I agree completely with this post...Unfortunately, it makes too much god damn sense.
Why does it make too much sense?
In December his minutes have also declined by 10% (36.1 vs. 33.2) and his FT% has regressed to the mean (he was over 80% from the line in November). Those are probably the biggest determinants in the difference between his stats between November and December.
Because it would be the slowest big tandem in the NBA. Jefferson will get burned to a crisp by most starting PFs in the league.
I haven't looked at any numbers, but I can assure you the assist numbers are wrong.