Lineups w/ Kanter or Booker

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Burke/Burks/Hayward/Booker/Favors = Offense Rating of 138.1 with a Defensive Rating of 100.8 (21 total minutes)

Burke/Burks/Hayward/Kanter/Favors = Offense Rating of 117.9 with a Defensive Rating of 126.7 (33 total minutes)

Next most used lineup is Burke/Hayward/Hood/Booker/Favors at 9 minutes.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, NBA.com still doesn't have tracking stats for Kanter. He has been that bad the cameras can't even tell he is a NBA player.

 

[addictionary]

How many games have you taken under consideration?

 

[candrew]

Booker's individual Net Rating is more than double any other player on the team. He also leads the team in True Shooting % (not counting Clark and Novak who've barely played).

You gotta find this guy more minutes.

 

[candrew]

Also, NBA.com still doesn't have tracking stats for Kanter. He has been that bad the cameras can't even tell he is a NBA player.

I'm really curious to see Kanter's defended field goal percentage.

I'm guessing NBA.com doesn't know how to display the symbol for infinity.

 

[Getting Traded]

If the trend continues, you know what this means. Kanter is going to be demoted to coming off the bench, and may even be placed behind Rudy, especially if Rudy upgrades his game on offense.

 

[sgjazzfan]

If the trend continues, you know what this means. Kanter is going to be demoted to coming off the bench, and may even be placed behind Rudy, especially if Rudy upgrades his game on offense.

I don't think that Rudy will start any time soon. That would mean Kanter playing the 5 off the bench, and I don't think they want to rely on him protecting the rim

 

[NAOS]

Kwame

 

[zman1527]

Burke/Burks/Hayward/Booker/Favors = Offense Rating of 138.1 with a Defensive Rating of 100.8 (21 total minutes)

Burke/Burks/Hayward/Kanter/Favors = Offense Rating of 117.9 with a Defensive Rating of 126.7 (33 total minutes)

Next most used lineup is Burke/Hayward/Hood/Booker/Favors at 9 minutes.

Booker looks like a solid nba player. Kanter looks lost.

 

[NAOS]

Seriously, is there a better time to start Booker?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Seriously, is there a better time to start Booker?

No... Although he may try to beat down Blake and get suspended for the year.

 

[GVC]

Seriously, is there a better time to start Booker?

I'm all for starting Booker, but it's probably a bit early to make such a drastic change.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm all for starting Booker, but it's probably a bit early to make such a drastic change.

Yep. Gotta hope Kanter starts playing at an acceptable level so he can be traded at the deadline.

 

[NAOS]

I'm all for starting Booker, but it's probably a bit early to make such a drastic change.

Drastic? Changing one person in the starting lineup when there's plenty of evidence to suggest such a change? If this is drastic, then what isn't?

 

[GVC]

Drastic? Changing one person in the starting lineup when there's plenty of evidence to suggest such a change? If this is drastic, then what isn't?

It's a young, non-contending team. You don't change a young player's role 3 games into a season. I don't think Kanter's hurting anyone's development by starting. If he still looks like trash 10 or 15 games in, you move him to the bench to see how he can handle a smaller role. It may have been a mistake to start Kanter, but I think you have to live with for a little while longer.

 

[NAOS]

It's a young, non-contending team. You don't change a young player's role 3 games into a season. I don't think Kanter's hurting anyone's development by starting. If he still looks like trash 10 or 15 games in, you move him to the bench to see how he can handle a smaller role. It may have been a mistake to start Kanter, but I think you have to live with for a little while longer.

I see your point, but I disagree. The biggest problem in these three games has been the half-court defense. Kanter's ineptitude IS hurting a successful installation of the defense, and, by extension, hurting our players' development.

I do agree that it was a mistake to start him...... especially given our November schedule.

 

[GVC]

Kanter's ineptitude IS hurting a successful installation of the defense, and, by extension, hurting our players' development.

That seems fair.

I do agree that it was a mistake to start him...... especially given our November schedule.

I just don't think it would set a good precedent in the locker room if the coach is giving up on his first starting lineup after 3 games. Basketball players are human beings, and they respond to trust/confidence and clear expectations/guidelines like anyone else. I don't think you can get away with yanking Kanter from the starting lineup until ~10 games in, but that's just my opinion, and I have absolutely no experience in a competitive team sports locker room.

I kinda wish the rabid anti-Ty posters would chime in on Booker starting. I assume they recognize that it's both the sensible thing to do AND exactly what they blasted Ty for doing last season.

 

[silesian]

I just don't think it would set a good precedent in the locker room if the coach is giving up on his first starting lineup after 3 games. Basketball players are human beings, and they respond to trust/confidence and clear expectations/guidelines like anyone else. I don't think you can get away with yanking Kanter from the starting lineup until ~10 games in, but that's just my opinion, and I have absolutely no experience in a competitive team sports locker room.

Fair points, but Quin has clearly outlined the requirements for playing time, especially effort and focus on the defensive end. If Kanter does not respond ane Quin keeps playing Kanter, what message does this give to the team? It seems that the interim step of starting Kanter and playing Booker more minutes might be a reasonable short-term answer to this conundrum.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's a young, non-contending team. You don't change a young player's role 3 games into a season. I don't think Kanter's hurting anyone's development by starting. If he still looks like trash 10 or 15 games in, you move him to the bench to see how he can handle a smaller role. It may have been a mistake to start Kanter, but I think you have to live with for a little while longer.

Agree, but I think we will see Booker ending the 1st half and 2nd half of games, so he will essentially be the starter. Kanter will slowly use minutes to Booker until he eventually loses his starting job.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I kinda wish the rabid anti-Ty posters would chime in on Booker starting. I assume they recognize that it's both the sensible thing to do AND exactly what they blasted Ty for doing last season.

I disagree - for now. Three games is way too small of a sample size, especially given that Kanter is being asked to change his game to fit Quin's system. I would continue to start Kanter for at least 15 games or so. I think it equally important to have a great player off the bench and Booker gives us that.