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Red said:
Since Trump stood in front of the world's cameras in Helsinki, with Putin by his side, and said Putin told him that Russia had not interfered, and Trump didn't see why they would have interfered, (and I don't buy his next day correction, it would have been absurd in the context at the time), and since it apparently bruises his ego to have Russian interference in 2020 raised in his presence, and since he basically does not give a **** if they do interfere, he was fine with it in 2016 after all, then, yeah, I think so. Leave it to him, and he will do nothing whatsoever. A worse job? He would do no job at all if left to him alone.

Who stopped Obama from getting a joint condemnation of Russia before the election, by both parties? McConnell, who stated he would call it interference in the election by Obama.
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I know that the "thin-skinned" narrative is one that Trump haters feel very strongly about and repeat to themselves like a mantra, but I sure don't think it holds up. I don't think he is thin-skinned. I think he is fueled by conflict. He seeks it out. That is not a compliment at all, BTW.

Regarding my initial comment, though. It's interesting to me that the Dems don't really seem all that concerned that this breach of our sovereignty they are so crazed about happened under Obama's watch. They are only upset about it to the extent that they can tie it to Trump and use it to explain Hillary's defeat. I don't believe it would have mattered to them at all had Hillary won.
 
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I know that the "thin-skinned" narrative is one that Trump haters feel very strongly about and repeat to themselves like a mantra, but I sure don't think it holds up. I don't think he is thin-skinned. I think he is fueled by conflict. He seeks it out. That is not a compliment at all, BTW.

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I mean i guess you could say that about anyone who is thin skinned.
No they are not thin skinned they just seek out conflict and thats why anything and everything is a big deal to them and bothers them.


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fishonjazz said:
I mean i guess you could say that about anyone who is thin skinned.
No they are not thin skinned they just seek out conflict and thats why anything and everything is a big deal to them and bothers them.


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So you think a thin-skinned person would seek the public spotlight, take controversial positions and not sway in the face of massive opposition? I guess we have different definitions of thin-skinned.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
They are only upset about it to the extent that they can tie it to Trump and use it to explain Hillary's defeat. I don't believe it would have mattered to them at all had Hillary won.
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So, you are saying that if Russia's meddling has been less successful, they would be less upset? Yeah, that sounds correct.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
So you think a thin-skinned person would seek the public spotlight, take controversial positions and not sway in the face of massive opposition? I guess we have different definitions of thin-skinned.
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Since I see no conflict between being thin-skinned and being an egoist, we probably do.
 
One Brow said:
So, you are saying that if Russia's meddling has been less successful, they would be less upset? Yeah, that sounds correct.
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I think the Russians owe the Dems a huge thank you. First, for putting up an amazingly poor candidate, but more importantly for giving them a huge bang for their buck when it comes to sewing chaos. I doubt they imagined this result in their wildest dreams.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think the Russians owe the Dems a huge thank you. First, for putting up an amazingly poor candidate, but more importantly for giving them a huge bang for their buck when it comes to sewing chaos. I doubt they imagined this result in their wildest dreams.
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No disagreement there.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Still making loud noises and plugging your ears when your point of view is challenged I see.
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You don't challenge points of view. You just troll. It's not a challenge to put up bunches of memes that don't reflect reality, it's just sad.

For all that I disagree with them, and despite how it may occasionally seem, I have respect for the sincerity of JoeBagadonuts and other serious conservative posters.

I would ignore you more, but unchallenged viewpoints tend to persuade people without opinions, even when they are as stupid as what you post.
 
Eminence said:
I have no idea what she was trying to manipulate. But the options are either manipulation or idiocy I guess. As she doesn't strike me as an idiot I went with manipulation as the more likely explanation.
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I think the best explanation is simple cultural blindness. It happens even to those that are both smart and sincere.
 
Nonsense thread/

lol.

Well, look, this is the New World Order paradigm. We're one big happy world with every country minding every other country's business. Sure we have the Bigs, like China, the US, Russia.... rising stars like India, Brazil, Indonesia.... wannabees like ISIS and the resurrected Ottoman Epire….. even the Persian Empire.... not to mention has-beens like the British "Commonwealth"..... where the only thing "common" is the fact that votes don't really count, if they get counted in the first place.

But the "real" BIGs are the moneyed BIGS..... well the Chinese elites/commies own their country and all the businesses run outta there, including foreign retailers in every other country. If the US, Russia and India could make a solid front, maybe we'd be a competitor on their scale.....

I believe the Chinese resent the fact that European "BIGS" have historically dominated them, and I think revenge is at hand.

But hey, look at Venezuela..... Russia, Cuba, Iran, China propping up an electoral cheat who sends troops to gun down the hoi polio.

Today is the day, in the eyes of all "progressives", to jump the shark and take out the American rednecks who are such assholes about becoming a has-been republic with real human rights. If you can't do it electorally in 2020 with twenty million illegal voters, you'll just have to break out the guns.

The "one shot heard 'round the world" in the eyes of The Resistance(really "The Final Solution" globally), would be the one that takes out Trump, and there's gotta be a million at least who would be willing to give their life to the cause.

But hey..... all that is actually nonsense, and you all know it. Elections don't matter anymore. We've got the Management State in charge. Everything will work out fine. No need to do the shooting when world population can be managed with other methods well enough, and gradualism will prevail even on China, to create the optimum business climate for cartels the world over.

Trump sold out. He's on the team now. Just watch.
 
NPC D4617 said:
How is that not cultural appropriation or different than cultural appropriation?
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If you grow up in a culture, you can't appropriate it. You're a native.

NPC D4617 said:
By the way, I dont see anything wrong with cultural appropriation. I see it as more of respect, liking, and honoring another culture.
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People sometimes appropriate cultures to demean, diminish, and mock them. People can do offensive things while intending to honor, like, or respect (and if they sincerely were intending to honor, like or respect a culture, then an apology is usually a straightforward, simple solution).

NPC D4617 said:
But of course its one more thing for the liberal white savior to cry about.
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I don't generally see white people initiate discussons of appropriation, although they may join in.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
So you think a thin-skinned person would seek the public spotlight, take controversial positions and not sway in the face of massive opposition? I guess we have different definitions of thin-skinned.
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Sure. Thin skinned doesn't equal shy wallflower to me.

It equals someone who is easily upset. I think Trump is easily upset. You seem to be arguing that he enjoys being upset. I can dig it. I think he is someone who is easily upset and enjoys being upset. Doubly stupid imo.

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But both sides, republicans and democrats, are equally to blame for the mess of democracy we currently have, right?

Why would republicans do this? What’s to be gained? They wouldn’t be engaging in a poll tax to prevent minorities from voting for democrats, would they?

 
The Thriller said:
But both sides, republicans and democrats, are equally to blame for the mess of democracy we currently have, right?

Why would republicans do this? What’s to be gained? They wouldn’t be engaging in a poll tax to prevent minorities from voting for democrats, would they?

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You are assuming minorities are criminals.

You are also assuming the Democrats base is basically full of criminals.

Only one of those is partially true.

Gee, I wonder what attracts criminals to Democrats.

Honk honk
 
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