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Bulletproof said:
The Russians conspired to influence our Presidential election. That's not in question even a little bit. So how many times do you get to call real **** fake and expect to be taken seriously?

Hint: you ran out of chances to be taken seriously a LONG LONG time ago.
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I never said the Russians didnt. Ive said Trump wasnt in some grand conspiracy with them.

The left has literally tried to say he is a Russian asset. Someone working in direct interests of the Russians.

That is fake news.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you think there is a chance that Trump will do a worse job of keeping the Russians from interfering than Obama did?
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Since Trump stood in front of the world's cameras in Helsinki, with Putin by his side, and said Putin told him that Russia had not interfered, and Trump didn't see why they would have interfered, (and I don't buy his next day correction, it would have been absurd in the context at the time), and since it apparently bruises his ego to have Russian interference in 2020 raised in his presence, and since he basically does not give a **** if they do interfere, he was fine with it in 2016 after all, then, yeah, I think so. Leave it to him, and he will do nothing whatsoever. A worse job? He would do no job at all if left to him alone.

Who stopped Obama from getting a joint condemnation of Russia before the election, by both parties? McConnell, who stated he would call it interference in the election by Obama.
 
Red said:
Since Trump stood in front of the world's cameras in Helsinki, with Putin by his side, and said Putin told him that Russia had not interfered, and Trump didn't see why they would have interfered, (and I don't buy his next day correction, it would have been absurd in the context at the time), and since it apparently bruises his ego to have Russian interference in 2020 raised in his presence, and since he basically does not give a **** if they do interfere, he was fine with it in 2016 after all, then, yeah, I think so. Leave it to him, and he will do nothing whatsoever. A worse job? He would do no job at all if left to him alone.

Who stopped Obama from getting a joint condemnation of Russia before the election, by both parties? McConnell, who stated he would call it interference in the election by Obama.
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I know that the "thin-skinned" narrative is one that Trump haters feel very strongly about and repeat to themselves like a mantra, but I sure don't think it holds up. I don't think he is thin-skinned. I think he is fueled by conflict. He seeks it out. That is not a compliment at all, BTW.

Regarding my initial comment, though. It's interesting to me that the Dems don't really seem all that concerned that this breach of our sovereignty they are so crazed about happened under Obama's watch. They are only upset about it to the extent that they can tie it to Trump and use it to explain Hillary's defeat. I don't believe it would have mattered to them at all had Hillary won.
 
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I know that the "thin-skinned" narrative is one that Trump haters feel very strongly about and repeat to themselves like a mantra, but I sure don't think it holds up. I don't think he is thin-skinned. I think he is fueled by conflict. He seeks it out. That is not a compliment at all, BTW.

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I mean i guess you could say that about anyone who is thin skinned.
No they are not thin skinned they just seek out conflict and thats why anything and everything is a big deal to them and bothers them.


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fishonjazz said:
I mean i guess you could say that about anyone who is thin skinned.
No they are not thin skinned they just seek out conflict and thats why anything and everything is a big deal to them and bothers them.


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So you think a thin-skinned person would seek the public spotlight, take controversial positions and not sway in the face of massive opposition? I guess we have different definitions of thin-skinned.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
They are only upset about it to the extent that they can tie it to Trump and use it to explain Hillary's defeat. I don't believe it would have mattered to them at all had Hillary won.
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So, you are saying that if Russia's meddling has been less successful, they would be less upset? Yeah, that sounds correct.
 
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