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candrew said:
Florida had an influx of 200K residents from Puerto Rico in the last 2-3 years.

I think it's safe to say most of them are not Trump fans.

Also my parents moved to Florida last year - they assured me they're not voting for Trump.
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I’m sure this is just a coincidence.

 
candrew said:
For a Democrat to become president you need a rock star. If you accept the fact that LBJ rode into the WH in 64 on JFK's coattails you're looking at one Dem president since WWII that wasn't a rock star. Warren is about a far as you can get from a rock star.

And her taking Trump's bait on the Native American thing was very disappointing - if she's the pick she better have learned from that.
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Her rallies have already proven you wrong
 
She has incredible self-control as a messenger. Mayor Pete is the only other candidate close to her level in this respect, but he doesn’t have the same following/scrutiny/heat.
 
Catchall said:
On paper, Warren is actually as far left as Bernie (or at least, she was). She supports Bernie's Healthcare for All. She wants to decriminalize undocumented migrants crossing the border and extend healthcare to them as well. She's proposed student-loan forgiveness and other progressive social programs. The thing is, everyone knows these exorbitant government programs are unlikely to pass through the House, let alone the Senate, and she's being warned that these proposals are too far left to get her elected. She may be starting to move a bit back towards the center and make concessions as she tries to win over the DNC. It's enough that some on the left side of the party are questioning whether she's truly one of them anymore. Posing with Hillary Clinton didn't help that perception.
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I’ve been out of town for 5 days... what concessions?
 
NAOS said:
Dude..... gimme a ****ing break. Democratic Socialism is not straight-up Socialism. Please. Thank you.
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It's funny. Though there is some daylight between Sanders and Warren, there isn't a ton. But the way some Bernie fans talk about her you'd think she was the female version of Joe Manchin.
 
Every Warren plan is a watered down Bernie plan that she rips off of, sometimes even in name (in the case of M4All). She isn’t 10% of the political leader he is, and I hope she doesn’t prevail.
 
Gameface said:
Warren was the brains, the passion and the muscle behind the Consumer Protections Act and the foundation of the Consumer Financial Protections Bureau...
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all these brains and she cannot come up with one “plan” better than Bernie’s
 
The Thriller said:
Warren has wider appeal than sanders. Sanders only appeals to one demographic; young White males. His campaign has done nothing to expand his appeal to any other demographic. Sorry Bernie bros, but if you want the nomination you gotta appeal to women and minorities. Warren, Harris, and Biden do this, sanders doesn’t.
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53% of Bernie donors are women, and he currently is 2nd behind Biden on POC voters. You actually just described Warren’s demographics.

you’re using 2016 data in 2020, which has changed dramatically. Sanders is the multiracial coalition this year
 
dalamon said:
Every Warren plan is a watered down Bernie plan that she rips off of, sometimes even in name (in the case of M4All). She isn’t 10% of the political leader he is, and I hope she doesn’t prevail.
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She's going to.

Her work on financial reform is from the heart. I trust that she will bring responsibility and reality back to Washington. Neither her or Bernie ore going to get even 5% of their big plans into law. So it isn't about who proposes the bigger most audacious plan (Bernie) it's about who is going to be the administrator of the United States. I wish more people looked at it that way and didn't think it was the biggest "rock star" or the person who makes the most ridiculous promises.

This is the person who has to administer the executive branch of government. If I thought everything Warren wants to do would pass... I'd vote for someone else. Knowing that almost none of it will, I pick her because I think she will be the most effective in the role.

For ****s sake, I hardly want Bernie Sanders going to the G7 or UN meetings, or any of the rest of the stuff the President has to do internationally than I want Trump doing it. But to be clear, I would prefer Bernie in that role over Trump, I think he'd be garbage in that role vs Warren.
 
NAOS said:
I’ve been out of town for 5 days... what concessions?
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health care plan is public option, and not single payer. Pharmacare is a $6000 annual max, not $200 like Bernie’s. Against rent control (unlike Bernie), not against halting prospective military budget raises, etc etc
 
dalamon said:
all these brains and she cannot come up with one “plan” better than Bernie’s
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Uhm, those plans. Those were her plans. When she was overlooked to lead the CFPB, even though she is the person who made it happen based on her years of academic work, years of work in the national government, she decided to run for Senate.

Now she's going to be the next President of the U.S..

You're trying to paint her as a phoney and I think that makes you look bad.
 
Gameface said:
She's going to.

Her work on financial reform is from the heart. I trust that she will bring responsibility and reality back to Washington. Neither her or Bernie ore going to get even 5% of their big plans into law. So it isn't about who proposes the bigger most audacious plan (Bernie) it's about who is going to be the administrator of the United States. I wish more people looked at it that way and didn't think it was the biggest "rock star" or the person who makes the most ridiculous promises.
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bernie will, because his candidacy actually inspires people to run. We already have evidence in that, with the AOCs and the Salazars and the Cabals.

This is the person who has to administer the executive branch of government. If I thought everything Warren wants to do would pass... I'd vote for someone else. Knowing that almost none of it will, I pick her because I think she will be the most effective in the role.
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This **** truly doesnt matter

For ****s sake, I hardly want Bernie Sanders going to the G7 or UN meetings, or any of the rest of the stuff the President has to do internationally tan I want Trump doing it. But to be clear, I would prefer Bernie in that role over Trump, I think he'd be garbage in that role vs Warren.
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well I hope you cheer up cuz when he becomes prez you’re gonna be seein it all the time and it’s gonna be ****ing fire
 
dalamon said:
Every Warren plan is a watered down Bernie plan that she rips off of, sometimes even in name (in the case of M4All). She isn’t 10% of the political leader he is, and I hope she doesn’t prevail.
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She's a cosponsor of his M4All bill, if I'm not mistaken. Kind of a weird critique to make that she's "ripping him off" somehow.

I think it's kind of funny to see the far left act like she's Hillary 2.0, while the moderates in the party act like she's no different from Sanders himself.

I'd be perfectly happy with either as the nominee, as their first terms will probably end up pretty much the same. It's not like either one is going to magically have 60 Democrats in the senate after all.

She's made fighting corruption and greed her calling card which is, along with climate change, the most pressing issue in the US currently imo.
 
Gameface said:
Uhm, those plans. Those were her plans. When she was overlooked to lead the CFPB, even though she is the person who made it happen based on her years of academic work, years of work in the national government, she decided to run for Senate.

Now she's going to be the next President of the U.S..

You're trying to paint her as a phoney and I think that makes you look bad.
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the definition of phoney is endorsing Bernie’s healthcare plan for a year, and then putting out your own plan later that uses the same name as his plan, only you water it down and still allow private insurance companies to profit off of sick people
 
dalamon said:
bernie will, because his candidacy actually inspires people to run. We already have evidence in that, with the AOCs and the Salazars and the Cabals.



This **** truly doesnt matter



well I hope you cheer up cuz when he becomes prez you’re gonna be seein it all the time and it’s gonna be ****ing fire
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Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
 
Zombie said:
She's a cosponsor of his M4All bill, if I'm not mistaken. Kind of a weird critique to make that she's "ripping him off" somehow.

I think it's kind of funny to see the far left act like she's Hillary 2.0, while the moderates in the party act like she's no different from Sanders himself.

I'd be perfectly happy with either as the nominee, as their first terms will probably end up pretty much the same. It's not like either one is going to magically have 60 Democrats in the senate after all.

She's made fighting corruption and greed her calling card which is, along with climate change, the most pressing issue in the US currently imo.
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see my post to gameface
 
Gameface said:
Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
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Gameface said:
Have fun in Canada. The land where you think you know jack **** about the U.S.. but actually just know **** about ****ing Canada.
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well so far I seem to know more about warren’s healthcare plan than Zombie, and more about her voter demographics than Thriller. I was the first person to post about AOC when she won her primary. I’d wager that I follow left US politics closer than 98% of this board
 
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