2011 draft.....

[NUMBERICA]

Either BYU's coaches are idiots and did implement that defensive strategy, or they're lying. Each player is given 5 fouls, and in 36 MPG (basically the entire game) Jimmer averaged 1.3 fouls per game. Besides film, that tells me he didn't even pretend to try and that's damn foolish and it falls on someone's feet. EITHER WAY, how can it just be expected he'll learn how to play against literally the quickest basketball players on earth? Losing bet, and as far as the character thing goes, the race card is a two-way street. Maybe Jimmer is more athletic than he's given credit for because of his race, but he's definitely painted in a saintly manner because of his appearance as well. And in response to "well BYU went 32-5 so he's obviously a good player lololol"; He led BYU to the Sweet 16 once in four years and BYU plays in a weak conference (outside of UNLV and SDSU, neither of whom make any noise in the tournament either). And Carlos Boozer won a national championship. Food for thought.

 

[BENTLEY]

Instead of drafting T. Jones or a questionable wing

the Jazz might wanna wait til 2012.

SFs:
Barnes
Gilchrist
P. Jones
McAdoo

and at SG there's Rivers and Lamb.

 

[BENTLEY]

He (Fredette) led BYU to the Sweet 16 once in four years and BYU plays in a weak conference (outside of UNLV and SDSU, neither of whom make any noise in the tournament either). And Carlos Boozer won a national championship. Food for thought.

Let's add some garnish.

Boozer's teammates: Jay Williams, Shane Battier, Mike Dunleavy, Chris Duhon.
Fredette's teammates: Jackson Emery, Noah Hartsock, Charles Abouo, Brandon Davies.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Donatas Motiejunas for some reason reminds me of another Darko Milicic, has as much potential as one could have, great offensive player, and is dominating the euro-leagues. I don't think Motiejunas will pan out just like Milicic didn't, Motiejunas might go in the top five if someone really has faith in him, but most likely in the six to ten range. Milicic is a pretty good role player, but considering where he went #2 in one of the best drafts ever he is a bust. Motiejunas might pan out you never know, but I still think he will be another Milicic and not be as good as his potential suggests.

Keith Benson is a player I would consider at #12, Benson is a senior at Oakland and averaged 17.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, and 3.6 BPG. Don't say it was against weak competition either because Oakland played West Virginia, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State and Tennessee all this year. It would be a reach to take him at #12, but he is 6-11 and weighs 225 lbs. Benson has great height, a 7-2 wingspan, needs to gain weight and muscle though only weighing 225 lbs is a killer. Benson would be a player that the Jazz could trade down a bit to take, like I said it would be a reach at #12, but you never know.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

the Jazz might wanna wait til 2012.

SFs:
Barnes
Gilchrist
P. Jones
McAdoo

and at SG there's Rivers and Lamb.

I'll take T. Jones over P. Jones. T actually as a motor. The Jazz should focus on getting ONE good player near the top of the draft and take their chances thereafter.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I wonder if there are 12 'lottery' worth draft picks in this draft.

Probably not.

So why waste a pick on another stiff?

Get the best athlete available. There's always room for someone to wreck havoc in the passing lanes, run the court, play defense, dunk, and run a fastbreak.

What does a weak stiff do other than sit on the bench and get his shot blocked when he does play? Kosta Koufus is a complete waste. Likewise, Jonas would be a complete waste. I wouldn't even take him in the 2nd round from what I've seen. I'd much rather piss away a draft pick on a tremendous athlete like Ronnie Price hoping he'll amount to something rather than waste one away on some stiff.

 

[Favors Flave]

Keith Benson is a player I would consider at #12, Benson is a senior at Oakland and averaged 17.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, and 3.6 BPG. Don't say it was against weak competition either because Oakland played West Virginia, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State and Tennessee all this year. It would be a reach to take him at #12, but he is 6-11 and weighs 225 lbs. Benson has great height, a 7-2 wingspan, needs to gain weight and muscle though only weighing 225 lbs is a killer. Benson would be a player that the Jazz could trade down a bit to take, like I said it would be a reach at #12, but you never know.[/QUOTE]

Considering he is supposed to go mid 2nd round, it would be the worst decision ever in history to take him at 12. I'd consider him in the 2nd round but we don't have a 2nd round pick.

 

[BENTLEY]

I'll take T. Jones over P. Jones. T actually as a motor. The Jazz should focus on getting ONE good player near the top of the draft and take their chances thereafter.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of P. Jones but maybe next year he'll put it together and win some games for Baylor.
But I think P. Jones and T. Jones both have question marks whereas I have a lot more confidence in Barnes, Gilchrist, Rivers and Lamb. There's also Quincy Miller and Bradley Beal to choose from next year as well.

It's not that T. Jones isn't talented - I just like these other guys better so I'd rather go for someone at perhaps a different position this year rather than settle for Terrence.

 

[Archie Moses]

Let's add some garnish.

Boozer's teammates: Jay Williams, Shane Battier, Mike Dunleavy, Chris Duhon.
Fredette's teammates: Jackson Emery, Noah Hartsock, Charles Abouo, Brandon Davies.

Ownage.

 

[BENTLEY]

Keith Benson is a player I would consider at #12, Benson is a senior at Oakland and averaged 17.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, and 3.6 BPG. Don't say it was against weak competition either because Oakland played West Virginia, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State and Tennessee all this year. It would be a reach to take him at #12, but he is 6-11 and weighs 225 lbs. Benson has great height, a 7-2 wingspan, needs to gain weight and muscle though only weighing 225 lbs is a killer.

He weighs more than Camby.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

the Jazz might wanna wait til 2012.

SFs:
Barnes
Gilchrist
P. Jones
McAdoo

and at SG there's Rivers and Lamb.

Yeah because Perry Jones isn't questionable.

I would take Jones in a heartbeat at 12. Athleticism. Check. Rebounding. Check. A defensive player. Check. An ability to create his own shot. Check. Someone who's shown some semblance of shooting. Check. Some people on here like Leonard but Jones shot better from downtown as a frosh than Leonard did as a sophomore. Typically, these guys improve a lot in year two too. He was also 55% from three point range in the tourney (5 of 9) which tells me he does have some ability to recognize shot selection and choose his battles. Might the kid have some character issues? Sure. He also is flawed (I'm not crazy about his ability to drive at the next level--he's sort of awkward and gets sort of caught into awkward shots because he can't pull up and finishes oddly). But who the hell isn't at #12?

 

[NAOS]

Yeah because Perry Jones isn't questionable.

I would take Jones in a heartbeat at 12. Athleticism. Check. Rebounding. Check. A defensive player. Check. An ability to create his own shot. Check. Someone who's shown some semblance of shooting. Check. Some people on here like Leonard but Jones shot better from downtown as a frosh than Leonard did as a sophomore. Typically, these guys improve a lot in year two too. He was also 55% from three point range in the tourney (5 of 9) which tells me he does have some ability to recognize shot selection and choose his battles. Might the kid have some character issues? Sure. He also is flawed (I'm not crazy about his ability to drive at the next level--he's sort of awkward and gets sort of caught into awkward shots because he can't pull up and finishes oddly). But who the hell isn't at #12?

If I'm taking a flyer out on a guy that has some serious question marks but might turn into a good NBA player, then I think I'd rather have Burks than Jones. If Burks can develop his shooting and defense then he'd be awesome.