2020 Presidential election

[Hotdog]

The news media is held in fairly low regard in our country, at this time in our history. Yet, an adversarial press has been one of our most important institutions since the beginning of our republic. An institution that has, time and again, spoken truth to power.

Trump, by elevating the "fake news" meme, and "alternative facts" is doing more to forever demonize this critical institution, a free press in a democratic society, then any one prior. This demonization is one of the most damaging things Trump has done to our democracy. And one of the most irresponsible things. This damage will long outlive Trump.

Remember, truth is among the first casualties of fascism, or, as Timothy Snyder puts it "Post Truth is pre-fascism". A Post Truth era is an era in which a free press speaking truth to power is rendered meaningless.

Hypocritically, what does your statement even mean if the truth is that there is a huge problem with fake news?

You are right. The media is very important, but it is so ignorant and dangerous to suggest that media should be trusted 100 percent and not called out when they are spreading lies. You just choose to believe those lies so you dont understand. I mean, why isnt Fox News just trusted by you 100 percent? You seem to have no problem calling them fake. I know you dont come right out and say that, but if what they say is the exact opposite of what the left says then....


Its really pretty simple, your argument falls right on its face when the truth is the media manipulates and lies.

 

[Hotdog]

Trump is telling anyone the news is fake. The people are telling him. He just relays the message.

 

[silesian]

Bro. Walks like a duck, quack like a duck....you are a regressive for sure.

Name one thing I have said that leads you to this ridiculous conclusion.

And remember, pointing out trump incompetence is a bipartisan endeavor.

Tick tock.

 

[silesian]

Geez man. Why are so you angry? Out of pot? No girlfriend?

Toying with you is a kick.

Me being mad is as accurate as any of your other posts.

You are still avoiding my question, coward.

BACK UP YOUR STATEMENT IF GTF OUTA HERE, IDIOT!

(you see, that was anger, although between you and me i was just pretending).

 

[One Brow]

Its not attack the government. Its defend yourself from them when they go rogue. Which is what the Dems are flirting with.

Thank you for agreeing with me that there was no contradiction.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Charlie Nails it

 

[fishonjazz]

Charlie Nails it

Sickening.
Trump and his supporters have tried to make Americans the #1 enemy of them.
In their deranged minds "the left" and the liberals and the Dems and the media and socialism are bigger enemies and threats than terrorists or isis or China or Russia or any other threat.

Fake Boogeymen scare them more than actual threats.

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[Red]

I mean, why isnt Fox News just trusted by you 100 percent? You seem to have no problem calling them fake.

Have you been living under a rock where Fox New is concerned, lately? Fox doesn't even trust itself 100%. Have you not noted the acrimonious battle between the Fox prime time opinion hosts and the Fox News division? The opinion hosts are pissed that news reporters like Shepard Smith were not reporting like a Trump compliant press. It's like the Hannity's and Carlson's of Fox are calling their own news division a promoter of fake news. Which some clearly are, Smith and Wallace being exceptions. Smith and Tucker Carlson traded barbs in public. Smith leaving the network. And you can actually ask me why I don't trust Fox 100%? That's such a silly question, guy.

And no, of course I have no problem calling Fox fake, in the sense that it's opinion division acts as state media, a Trump propaganda machine, promoting conspiracy theory:

https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2017/11/10_conspiracy_theories_that_tu.html

Trump and company want a transition to Post Truth for the exact reason stated in the Snyder quote seen in my signature:

“Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

What Snyder is talking about is where Trumpian "fake news", and "alternative facts" and baseless conspiracy theories, such as the Deep State Trump victimization complex, is taking us: to a Post Truth landscape where truth will be whatever anybody wants truth to be. Facts will be countered with alternative facts. When nobody can agree on what is true, what are facts, then authoritarian leaders can spout any lie they chose, and this Post Truth trend promotes a condition where it becomes more difficult to speak truth to power, probably the very last thing anybody should want to see happen in our nation.

Hey, believe what you want, whom you want. Or, pick up a copy of "On Tyranny", and maybe it will help you understand some of these issues.

 

[Jazzta]

Tulsi to participate in tonight’s debate, it will certainly make it worth watching.

 

[str8line]

What's weird and makes anyone who supports Trump an absolute fool is that not one iota of "fake news" is necessary to disparage Trump.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Those who don’t get the hypocrisy here need to Google who her uncle is

 

[Hotdog]

Have you been living under a rock where Fox New is concerned, lately? Fox doesn't even trust itself 100%. Have you not noted the acrimonious battle between the Fox prime time opinion hosts and the Fox News division? The opinion hosts are pissed that news reporters like Shepard Smith were not reporting like a Trump compliant press. It's like the Hannity's and Carlson's of Fox are calling their own news division a promoter of fake news. Which some clearly are, Smith and Wallace being exceptions. Smith and Tucker Carlson traded barbs in public. Smith leaving the network. And you can actually ask me why I don't trust Fox 100%? That's such a silly question, guy.

And no, of course I have no problem calling Fox fake, in the sense that it's opinion division acts as state media, a Trump propaganda machine, promoting conspiracy theory:

https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2017/11/10_conspiracy_theories_that_tu.html

Trump and company want a transition to Post Truth for the exact reason stated in the Snyder quote seen in my signature:

“Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

What Snyder is talking about is where Trumpian "fake news", and "alternative facts" and baseless conspiracy theories, such as the Deep State Trump victimization complex, is taking us: to a Post Truth landscape where truth will be whatever anybody wants truth to be. Facts will be countered with alternative facts. When nobody can agree on what is true, what are facts, then authoritarian leaders can spout any lie they chose, and this Post Truth trend promotes a condition where it becomes more difficult to speak truth to power, probably the very last thing anybody should want to see happen in our nation.

Hey, believe what you want, whom you want. Or, pick up a copy of "On Tyranny", and maybe it will help you understand some of these issues.

Lmao. You are so gullible.


That has to be the most ridiculously short sighted post ever.

Are you just effing with me or do you really believe that only Fox news is biased? You cant be that naive. Can you?