2020 Presidential election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gandalfe, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Lmao Jesus fing Christ. Purity test? If that's what you call not supporting a dude like Bloomberg then lmao.
     
  2. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    There is literally nothing positive saying you'll support Bloomberg. Our votes have power, use them to get what you want, not concede to the powers that be. Saying that **** just empowers the DNC establishment to pull some ****ery.
     
  3. Eminence

    Eminence Well-Known Member

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    Nobody has consolidated a contested race that fast in recent years.

    2008 Obama was at 37% of pledged delegates through IA/NH
    2008 McCain was at 20%
    2012 Romney at 33%
    2016 Trump at 34%
    2016 Clinton at 48%

    Bernie at 33% is in fine shape

    Kerry was probably the last example of a candidate doing so successfully, and how'd that work out for him?
     
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  4. DasJazz

    DasJazz Well-Known Member

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    Alternatively, if they actually don't cheat like they are so accustomed to doing and Bernie does in fact get the nomination, we're gonna get 4 more years of Trump.
     
  5. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    In 2016, Trump won New Hampshire by 20 points, Nevada by 23 points, and South Carolina by 10 points.
    Bernie won New Hampshire by 1.3 points. He is currently polling 5 points behind Biden in South Carolina. Bernie could with Nevada by 8-10 points though.

    Bernie's got a ways to go, and he may hit a ceiling at 30% - 35% support among Dems. That's not exactly a mandate from the people.
     
  6. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    You really need to stop talking man. Lmao. Use actual data.
     
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  7. Zombie

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    You know there are head to head polls that show this idea of a low Bernie ceiling is ******** right?
     
  8. Zombie

    Zombie Well-Known Member

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    I think a lot of people are stuck with the perception that Bernie's campaign this year has the same problems it did in 2016. From what I've gathered this is not the case. They weren't well organized and had a pretty terrible ground game, neither of which is the case this go around.

    The message is largely the same (which resonated then) but the delivery of it has improved drastically.
     
  9. Eminence

    Eminence Well-Known Member

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    The idea that Bernie has a lower ceiling than the very best candidates (eg Obama) is probably pretty legit. Imo it's not near low enough to worry, and there are no candidates running this year (either side) that are significantly higher in terms of ceiling. Having a strong base has put him in a good position to pull out the primary in a wide field (similar to Trump '16). And the country is divided enough that any GE margin is going to be relatively small (I doubt anyone passes Obama '08 for some time, let alone Reagan level blowouts which I doubt we'll see again in our lifetimes).
     
  10. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    And therein lies the inherent problem of populism. To get an idea past you need the numbers, and guess what voting block the DNC caters to? Boomers. Rich, white, boomers scared *****ess of running out of money. Why do you think Obamacare finally passed? For the poor? GTFO. It was passed because boomers were bitching and moaning that they couldn't retire at 56 because they wouldn't have insurance. So the ****ers did the selfish thing like their generation always has, and now we have Obamacare for them.

    There are only scraps left over for the rest of you youngsters looking for a handout until you dip ***** tell the boomers to **** off and take away their social security. They have enough wealth as a class, go tax their assets and make those welfare queens get a job! Vote your best interest like they have. Take their bennies so you can have some bennies too.

     
  11. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    The people and country some of y'all are born to literally hate



    #soculty
     
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  12. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    According to the latest Federal Election Commission (FEC) data released Thursday, covering Jan. 1 through Jan. 31, the Republican National Committee has $76 million cash-on-hand compared with the Democratic National Committee’s $9.9 million.
     
  13. Political Jazz Fan

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  14. Jazzta

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    Yeah, Bernie supporters would have thrown him down the stairs. Did you have to make a spontaneous act of kindness political? Of course you did.
     
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  15. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    Straight up: All of this is accurate. The Sanders people tell me I might as well be a Republican. They insist everyone more moderate than Elizabeth Warren is the enemy.

    It's not just people like @colton who will be pushed out of the coalition - it's me too. And I'm a lot easier to turn out than Colton.
     
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  16. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    I rate this claim: FALSE
     
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  17. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Just trying to point out that maybe we're not the cult, racist, deplorable humans that some here and many on the left have portrayed us as for the last 4 years.. We're just typical America loving people who want the best for our country. It's nice to be shed in a nice light sometimes for how much hate we get.

    I'm sorry that bothered you so much. Actually, I'm not.
     
  18. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I mean, how dare someone try to shine Trump supporters in a positive light in this thread... The audacity.
     
  19. Jazzta

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    “The country we’re born to hate”, as if love for this country is exclusive to Trump supporters. If all Trump supporters think like you what do you think you will be getting back from the opposition?
     
  20. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I expected nothing but the hateful response I got..
     

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