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Wonder why the economy was so terrible with the last president? The one that was literally so awful people had to vote Trump? That's pretty bad...
 
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@Jazzta Why focusing on winning the youth vote at the expense of the older crowd is a great recipe for failure:


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don’t get me wrong, I’d love for more young people to vote. But even with Sanders, their turnout rate sucks ***.
 
'Bernie Bros' I know of are quite emphatically against Bloomberg being in the primary at all. Many would go 3rd party if he did somehow win the nomination.

are they? The Bernie Bros I’ve seen on Twitter love having him still in because he’s sucking up diverting moderate votes.
 
Fair enough. I tried to word it in such a way as to not make it about you in particular, but clearly I failed there.

I don't think the logic of your second point holds together particularly well though. Take the 08 race for example, Obama didn't "emphatically win" among democrats but ended with a pretty dominating performance in the general election. At the same time McCain pretty easily wiped the floor against Mitt Romney on the road to ultimately losing the election.

Rereading your post makes it pretty clear that you were being careful about your wording so I see what you’re saying. No worries.

Doesn’t a close primary with Obama becoming the eventual winner bode well for Sanders? Or do Bernie’s supporters fear that Biden will become the delegate leader? If Biden becomes the delegate leader, why shouldn’t he win the nomination?
If we enter a brokered convention and Sanders is the leader in delegate count, do Bernie’s supporters really believe the Democratic establishment will nominate Biden or Warren? If so, I think that’s a completely unnecessary and irrational fear. Whoever is the delegate leader will win the nomination; brokered convention or not imo.
 
Trump is vastly more coherent and savvy than Joe Biden. That's not even a discussion.

I love the “not even a discussion” Debating technique.

Last time it was effectively used was in the “what tastes better, tater tots or French fries” debate at john Adams elementary school in 1894.
 
@Jazzta Why focusing on winning the youth vote at the expense of the older crowd is a great recipe for failure:


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don’t get me wrong, I’d love for more young people to vote. But even with Sanders, their turnout rate sucks ***.
Your argument doesn’t make sense. Even if the ratio was 50/50 Bernie’s winning numbers among people under 44 are way higher than Biden’s among the older people, except in SC.

You throw a table at me pretending to look smart and you can’t even interpret it yourself.
 
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