2020 Presidential election

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  1. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    That disregards that this is Politifact, which is unaffiliated with Politico.

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    The link I left in the above comment is the best in depth description I have come across describing that part of Trump's constituency that attends his rallies. I wanted to emphasize it is not a "bash Trump supporters" hatchet job. It describes rally attendees honestly, in their own words. I see them as "victims" of a personality cult, certainly not the way they see themselves. Fellow Americans seriously misguided, but fellow Americans nonetheless.

    Another part of the Trump base, which will be there for him in 2020, barring events none of us can predict, are American evangelicals, Christian nationalists. I did not know it at the time, but a month before the midterms, a film opened in 1000 theaters nationwide. Titled "The Trump Prophesy", it described the belief that Trump represents the fulfillment of biblical prophesy:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/opinion/trump-evangelicals-cyrus-king.html



    Also recently, leading evangelical Jerry Falwell Jr. proclaimed that sympathy for the poor is something his god intended for the next world, not this one: The man whose institutional mission includes being “a voice for the voiceless” then meditated on the uselessness of the poor — “A poor person never gave anyone a job. A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume. It’s just common sense to me.” He then suggested that it might be immoral for Christians not to support Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/04/evangelicals-infallible-new-faith-gospel-trump/

    I have little to no patience for Christian nationalism, that strain of Christianity that believes god is on America's side, and always has been. From the 19th century belief in America's god ordained manifest destiny to stretch "from sea to shining sea" to Falwell's belief that Trump's enemies are god's enemies, I think it's sick. But there they are, another integral part of Trump's portion of our electorate.

    Trump, a president for some Americans, and the leader of a personality cult, backed by people who claim to be Christian, but who are nationalists more then anything else.....
     
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  5. dalamon

    dalamon Well-Known Member 2018 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Bernie needs to run, and he'll win if he does.
     
  6. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    He'll be 79, and he looks 179.
     
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  7. Alfalfa

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    Ya, it's over for Bernie.
     
  8. fishonjazz

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    Ya I love Bernie but he is too old I think

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    Tulsi Gabbard announces she is running for President.
     
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    And the Russians couldn’t be any happier. She’s an isolationist, pro life, nationalist, and anti-establishment from the left. Russian disinformation campaigns will look to boost her in attempts to split leftist voters. She won’t win the nomination, but much like Sanders or Stein she potentially could draw a certain type of voter from the left and hurt the party’s nominee in the general.

    Whether or not she actually has much of an impact on anything remains to be seen. But for sure the Russians love this and will try to use her.
     
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