2020 Presidential election

[MVP]

Not her biggest fan, but Hillary is about as close to a bog standard normal politician as you'll find. Big part of why she lost tbh. Apparently a large segment of America had no interest in normal.

I thought she lost because she was corrupt and people had to chose between two evils?

 

[Alfalfa]

I thought she lost because she was corrupt and people had to chose between two evils?

That's what people say every election. People are pretty ****ing stupid.

 

[Miggs]

Andrew Yang makes a lot of sense.

I don't know enough about him yet - but there's definitely some intriguing stuff.

And he's talking about the one thing that politicians are either afraid to talk about or have no clue about - and that's how AI is going to completely decimate the lower half of the American job landscape within 10 to 12 years.

AI will destroy that or automation?

 

[infection]

Andrew Yang makes a lot of sense.

I don't know enough about him yet - but there's definitely some intriguing stuff.

And he's talking about the one thing that politicians are either afraid to talk about or have no clue about - and that's how AI is going to completely decimate the lower half of the American job landscape within 10 to 12 years.

I saw a brief segment on Joe Rogan where he talked about college. Was glad that someone addressed the issue that we’ve oversold the idea of college. We’ve engrained it so much into our culture that you do college just because.

However, I think we need to stop talking about how to find kids going to college or trade school or whatever but taking worthless high school and actually allowing people to come out with skills. **** free college. Allow kids to come out of high school with welding training, radiology technician certificates, medical assisting, automechanics. So stupid that we want to delay this and make it more expensive by paying for both.

 

[infection]

Oh, and stop writing blank checks to universities in the form of student loans. It’s funny that they thought they’d help disadvantaged people by allowing them to get loans they can’t pay back.

Also, stop funding graduate medical education.

 

[Harambe]

Oh, and stop writing blank checks to universities in the form of student loans. It’s funny that they thought they’d help disadvantaged people by allowing them to get loans they can’t pay back.

Also, stop funding graduate medical education.

But regulation is anti-American...

 

[infection]

But regulation is anti-American...

It’s the opposite, though. It’s not about more regulation — it’s about not getting involved. Getting involved (i.e. regulation) is precisely why we’re in this mess.

 

[Hotdog]

Oh, and stop writing blank checks to universities in the form of student loans. It’s funny that they thought they’d help disadvantaged people by allowing them to get loans they can’t pay back.

Also, stop funding graduate medical education.

Ya, as it turns there isnt much of a market for gender studies and liberal arts. Kind of hard to pay back loans when you cant make a decent income off your "education"

 

[infection]

Ya, as it turns there isnt much of a market for gender studies and liberal arts. Kind of hard to pay back loans when you cant make a decent income off your "education"

You can if you eventually produce enough of those people that you’ve gotta lobby for a solution.

The woman who swallowed a fly.

 

[Hotdog]

I think people are forgetting that despite hacked emails leaking onto the web, a rampant Russia disinformation campaign, and Clinton’s baggage, Democrats won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

Knowledge of the Russian campaign alone imo would’ve tipped the scale in those 3 battleground states to clinton’s Favor.

Trump’s unpopularity alone and now economic failings in those states (google Foxconn) and potential crimes by Mueller will lead to a blowout.

Honestly, I’d be surprised to see trump on the ballot in 2020.

Having said all of that, campaigns matter. Democrats are notorious for running poor campaigns. They all too often let Fox News Drive the narratives. Plenty of time for them to screw the pooch.

But I’m tired of people acting like 2020 is like going up against Reagan in 84 or FDR in 36. The trump presidency is a miserable institution that wants to be killed off. It’s begging to be wiped out. I think winning for any democrat in 2020 will be far easier than in 2016. Easier than in 2008 even since McCain actually was qualified for the job.

I think the midterms showed us how much we are enjoying all of this “winning.” How many house seats did republicans lose again?

You are so delusional.

"Honestly, I’d be surprised to see trump on the ballot in 2020."

Lmao. Hilarious.

I seem to remember everyone saying he couldnt win last time too. You, the polls, everyone on tv, etc... You all were wrong then. Pretty arrogant to think he cant win again, let alone believe he wont even be on the ballot.

 

[Miggs]

I saw a brief segment on Joe Rogan where he talked about college. Was glad that someone addressed the issue that we’ve oversold the idea of college. We’ve engrained it so much into our culture that you do college just because.

However, I think we need to stop talking about how to find kids going to college or trade school or whatever but taking worthless high school and actually allowing people to come out with skills. **** free college. Allow kids to come out of high school with welding training, radiology technician certificates, medical assisting, automechanics. So stupid that we want to delay this and make it more expensive by paying for both.

I teach 9th grade at-risk kids and our district shoves college down the kids’ throats. It’s pathetic. The town is 95% Hispanic, poor, and the kids are far better off learning life/character skills and developing actual trade skills. Become an electrician, mechanic, plumber, welder, etc. There’s a growing need for such jobs. I tell my kids, “The district is dumb. If you want to go to college and are prepared, do it. On average, you’ll make more money than someone who didn’t go to college. But that doesn’t mean it’s right for you or that you can’t make good money or be happy not going to college. If you’d rather do a trade, do that. Work hard in high school so you have options and then make an informed decision that’s best for you, not these ******* administrators who just care about manipulating data.”

 

[infection]

I teach 9th grade at-risk kids and our district shoves college down the kids’ throats. It’s pathetic. The town is 95% Hispanic, poor, and the kids are far better off learning life/character skills and developing actual trade skills. Become an electrician, mechanic, plumber, welder, etc. There’s a growing need for such jobs. I tell my kids, “The district is dumb. If you want to go to college and are prepared, do it. On average, you’ll make more money than someone who didn’t go to college. But that doesn’t mean it’s right for you or that you can’t make good money or be happy not gong to college. If you’d rather do a trade, do that. Work hard in high school so you have options and then make an informed decision that’s best for you, not these ******* administrators who just care about manipulating data.”

It’d also be helpful if we taught people the difference between correlation and causation. Of course, to teach that would require understanding it. There are certainly more lucrative pathways that require college, but that’s not what the majority of people completing college are doing. People ambitious enough to stick through college are more ambitious in other avenues of life and thus make more money. That’s one variable that accounts for at least a large part of the variance. However, as college has been more and more sold as a cultural expectation, even those less ambitious are sticking through, especially when it’s much easier now to just take out loans and not have to work as hard, so the numbers saying it’s an advantage are going to reduce.

My generation was always told “go get a college degree,” as if there was some pot of gold at the end of that rainbow, but we never clarified why people attending college made more money. Part of it is correlation, but the other part is that college put people on paths to specific careers. Now it’s about “learning” with the expectation that employability comes after all of said learning.