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2020 Presidential election

Biden is a bitter pill. I've been thinking Hillary might ride into the Convention on her broom and sweep the whole shebang. Old dreams never die, they just drift off into mumbletown. Biden has had too much common cause with the Chinese and other world wonks, and he is senile to boot.
I've heard other clueless people speculate that as well.
 
I've heard other clueless people speculate that as well.

Probably. A lot of dems still cling to their nostalgic glory days of yore. I mean, I didn't make that up outta thin air. I read it into all the grief when Hillary lost. She's the Dream of Socialism personified, I'd say....... lol.
 
Oh no!

Biden! A decent human being who’s a pretty decent politician! So scary! What would we ever do?

He’s not my first choice. But let’s not act like his opponent is FDR or Lincoln.

1. Is Biden a terrible human waste garbage dump, like trump?

2. Does Biden encourage foreign government to intervene in our elections on his behalf?

3. Will Biden spend all his time trash talking on twitter instead of managing the executive?

Those are my standards, that’s how low they’ve become. He’s definitely qualified.

I personally agree with warren far more on politics. I still think she’ll get the nomination. However, I hope Democrats understand that absolutely nothing she or Sanders are proposing will happen as long as McConnell is the Senate majority leader and the filibuster is still intact.

If Biden is the nominee and you want to get rid of trump then he’s your best chance. Biden will be at worst, a decent and unremarkable one term president. At least he’ll rid us of agent orange and we can finally begin to rebuild the federal government. The last two republican presidents were trump and Bush II. Does anyone honestly think Biden will suck nearly as much as they?
 
No kidding. He's got the backing of the Dem establishment and of course the name recognition and Obama "glow" from being VP.

Good to keep in mind that at this point roughly half of the primary voters are still undecided, there could easily be a big swing toward another candidate.

I think the Dems are looking for a viable alternative to Biden. He's a walking gaffe and throwback to the Democratic Party that Trump defeated. And although Biden is a senior statesman, he just isn't a very strong, compelling candidate. A Trump v. Biden run-off would be a repeat of Trump attacking everything that happened under the Obama administration.

Bernie Sanders has a base of fervent supporters, but I don't think it would be enough to win a general election. He hasn't yet come across as being strong on the economy and foreign policy, and his angry, ornery personality gets old pretty fast.

Elizabeth Warren is an alternative, but her policies are just pretty far left to win the centrists and independent voters unless they're fully united about defeating Trump. And here's the thing, Sanders and Warren are actually very similar politically. I think they're already getting in each other's way and probably cannibalizing some support for one another. At a certain point, one of them is going to have to bow out and get out of the way of the other, but my feeling is that this won't happen until late in the game.
 
Probably. A lot of dems still cling to their nostalgic glory days of yore. I mean, I didn't make that up outta thin air. I read it into all the grief when Hillary lost. She's the Dream of Socialism personified, I'd say....... lol.
I don't think there are many "dems" at all that want Hillary anywhere near this race.

I don't think she was ever really loved as a candidate, but she was seen (with A LOT of help from the DNC) as the easy front-runner and potential first woman POTUS as a nice little bonus.

I think if the DNC had just let the chips fall where they may Bernie would have won the primary and gone on to easily beat Trump.

People were not upset because Hillary lost, they were upset because a disgusting, low-intelligence, egotistical, self-proclaimed ***** grabber, incompetent blow-hard jackass had just been elected.
 
Oh no!

Biden! A decent human being who’s a pretty decent politician! So scary! What would we ever do?

He’s not my first choice. But let’s not act like his opponent is FDR or Lincoln.

1. Is Biden a terrible human waste garbage dump, like trump?

2. Does Biden encourage foreign government to intervene in our elections on his behalf?

3. Will Biden spend all his time trash talking on twitter instead of managing the executive?

Those are my standards, that’s how low they’ve become. He’s definitely qualified.

I personally agree with warren far more on politics. I still think she’ll get the nomination. However, I hope Democrats understand that absolutely nothing she or Sanders are proposing will happen as long as McConnell is the Senate majority leader and the filibuster is still intact.

If Biden is the nominee and you want to get rid of trump then he’s your best chance. Biden will be at worst, a decent and unremarkable one term president. At least he’ll rid us of agent orange and we can finally begin to rebuild the federal government. The last two republican presidents were trump and Bush II. Does anyone honestly think Biden will suck nearly as much as they?

Biden has a son, Hunter. Hunter came along on an official visit to China, and hob-nobbed with the Honchos, and came home with a billion-dollar investment in a business he knew nothing about. I mean, the Chinese don't throw their money away, except in Casinos and massage resorts. They got something for their investment. I'd call that directly being bought by a foreign state. No mere meddling. Outright sell out.
 
Answers in bold.

1. Is Biden a terrible human waste garbage dump, like trump?
That language is contemptuous and exaggerated, but the answer is that, while Biden more outwardly tactful, he is a politician, like Trump.

2. Does Biden encourage foreign government to intervene in our elections on his behalf?
The Democrats already have MSNBC, CNN and the Washington Post trying to intervene on their behalf.

3. Will Biden spend all his time trash talking on twitter instead of managing the executive?
No. He probably doesn't use Twitter, and he's a minimally confrontational politician.

If Biden is the nominee and you want to get rid of trump then he’s your best chance.
Right now, I would give Biden 7:2 odds to beat Trump in a general election, but that's just my opinion. Dems need a strong, compelling candidate to challenge Trump, let alone defeat him.
 
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I don't think there are many "dems" at all that want Hillary anywhere near this race.

I don't think she was ever really loved as a candidate, but she was seen (with A LOT of help from the DNC) as the easy front-runner and potential first woman POTUS as a nice little bonus.

I think if the DNC had just let the chips fall where they may Bernie would have won the primary and gone on to easily beat Trump.

People were not upset because Hillary lost, they were upset because a disgusting, low-intelligence, egotistical, self-proclaimed ***** grabber, incompetent blow-hard jackass had just been elected.

well .... well.... I can see your view just about to the last line.

I wasn't set to think we'd ever have politicians who could teach Sunday School.

I did notice how fast Hillary was taken off the stage, and I thought it was because she was being a vitriolic old bitter hag. But then there was this whole DumpTrump thing that sounded just like that, too.
 
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well .... well.... I can see your view just about to the last line.

Look, I've known of some billionaire perps pretty close up. And now that I know a little about Epstein I might have to update my information. But I've known a lot of alpha sorts of men who run companies successfully. I'd say a lot of them might be called out as pervs by the local church lady. I'm sorta used to the notion that wealthy people do stuff, like in Vegas. "What happens in Vegas Stays in Vegas". I imagine there are other places with even more to hide, where the honchos do their bit.

I did notice how fast Hillary was taken off the stage, and I thought it was because she was being a vitriolic old bitter hag. But then there was this whole DumpTrump thing that sounded just like that, too.
Did you start typing with the intent of responding to my post or did you quote me by accident?
 
Did you start typing with the intent of responding to my post or did you quote me by accident?

I've been editing whatever.

Some years ago I worked for a billionaire who probably knew Epstein and had him handle some investments. Another billionaire who got married and turned his life around and became a family man. Almost as dramatic as it looks to me like Trump probably did.
 

The health care argument is so stupid. We all pay for it now so if course we will all pay for it. Only with health care reform we won't exclude poor people because they can't afford it and won't bankrupt middle class people because they can't afford it while rich people get all the private doctors they want. Our health care system is so broken we pay more than any other developed nation for sub-standard care that isn't accessible to huge chunks of the population. It's ridiculous.

My son needs medication to control epilepsy. In Germany that medicine cost us 20 euros per month out of pocket. Here it's $300. He can't afford that. I can't afford to buy it for him, although I do. There is so much wrong with this picture it just isn't funny any more.
 
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