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With as handsy as Biden is, I'm not surprised he has done inappropriate things. As did George Bush Sr and probably thousands of men in their 60s, 70s and 80s (I've known many). It's only worse the more powerful and famous they were/are.

It is so distressing that we cannot find presidential candidates who have treated women with respect and decency their whole lives. Maybe there isn't any? We need a female candidate.

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JazzGal said:
With as handsy as Biden is, I'm not surprised he has done inappropriate things. As did George Bush Sr and probably thousands of men in their 60s, 70s and 80s (I've known many). It's only worse the more powerful and famous they were/are.

It is so distressing that we cannot find presidential candidates who have treated women with respect and decency their whole lives. Maybe there isn't any? We need a female candidate.

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I dont remember obama having any sexual harrassment issues. Maybe i missed it though.
 
fishonjazz said:
I dont remember obama having any sexual harrassment issues. Maybe i missed it though.
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Just going backwards, with the question of "Have there been any sexual harassment accusations against...?":

Trump: Yes
Obama: No
GWB: No
Clinton: Yes
Bush Sr: Yes (after he left office)
Reagan: No (?)
Carter: No
Ford: No
Nixon: No (But he got off on power, not sex, anyway)
 
fishonjazz said:
I dont remember obama having any sexual harrassment issues. Maybe i missed it though.
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He wasn't 60+. Not from the same generation as Trump and Biden.

Hard to know about most previous presidents/candidates previous to #metoo because women weren't talking. But I do think most men now are at least aware of what is appropriate. Whether they choose to be appropriate and respectful is another matter. But back when I was growing up and then as a young adult, there were not discussions about this and women just had to shut up and put up with it. Even in my 50s I've had to make decisions about whether to report inappropriate coworkers.

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JazzGal said:
He wasn't 60+. Not from the same generation as Trump and Biden.

Hard to know about most previous presidents/candidates previous to #metoo because women weren't talking. But I do think most men now are at least aware of what is appropriate. Whether they choose to be appropriate and respectful is another matter. But back when I was growing up and then as a young adult, there were not discussions about this and women just had to shut up and put up with it. Even in my 50s I've had to make decisions about whether to report inappropriate coworkers.

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Ahh, the good ol days

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Gameface said:
I would NOT support the best chance of ousting Trump if that option is a sexual assaulter.

I would not support either candidate in that situation.
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I do very much want Trump out. His administration is actively undermining various federal agencies. Just recently, they EPA has decided to loosen up restrictions on air and water pollution in response to the COVID19 crisis. I might vote for Biden, I might vote for no one (definitely not Green as long as Stein is a major part of their party, and definitely not Libertarian). This is truly awful.
 
gandalfe said:
Just going backwards, with the question of "Have there been any sexual harassment accusations against...?":
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So many of them are from a time women were afraid to come forward, I don't trust a lack of reporting on anyone before Clinton.
 
One Brow said:
I do very much want Trump out. His administration is actively undermining various federal agencies. Just recently, they EPA has decided to loosen up restrictions on air and water pollution in response to the COVID19 crisis. I might vote for Biden, I might vote for no one (definitely not Green as long as Stein is a major part of their party, and definitely not Libertarian). This is truly awful.
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I will vote for whoever isn't trump. I never liked Biden even before these allegations. But he is still better than Trump. Anyone is better than trump. Trump's list of negatives is never ending.

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