What's new
  • This thread contains opinions and information that likely IS NOT ACCURATE. Do your own research on such an important topic on a site other than JazzFanz.com, please.

2021-2022 hot takes thread




Saint Cy of JFC

Well-Known Member
I don't think Rudy's plus minus is effected when he is on the bench.
If you go out the game and you have a 10 point lead and your backup loses the lead, you're more likely to swing the momentum back than if the backup gains you 10 points and you go back in up 20 and you're coasting more.
 

TheGoldStandard

Well-Known Member
Lukewarm take… holly rowe will only annoy guys who prefer there be no women in sports, but if they are there they need to be “easy on the eyes”.
Or maybe I've never found her to be talented, and don't like more and more time on the sidelines taking away from seeing the court. We'll see how others feel as the season goes on, but I always found her analysis on ESPN to be annoying. Does anyone else like sideline reporting? At least Kristen got very little reporting time other than post-game. Sideline reporting is annoying. Don't care if it is Kristen, Holly or some dude. The more you go to the sideline, the more disruptive and annoying it is.

I'm happy to have women in sports. No problem with women referees (other than Violet Palmer, because she was a horrible referee), coaches, etc. Off-hand, Rachel Nichols does a good job, and Doris Burke has a good voice for announcing, just doesn't do enough research on small market teams, but that is often the case for national broadcasters.

My understanding is they are going to use her more and more for sideline takes, which I always find annoying anyway. She's probably better than Steve Brown or Alema, but that isn't saying much.

I tend to rate people for their ability. Frankly, I'm not sure why the producers in every league tend to give women announcers more "face time" vs just hearing their voices. I just want to watch the game.

That said Holly Rowe has always annoyed me. Bonnie Bernstein always seemed to have done much better analysis and she is much more articulate, yet Rowe seemed to get more games.

I will say, that deep, male voices are easier on the ears for a full broadcast. Marv Albert is a great example. If you watch most news programs or sports broadcasts, the females also tend to have lower voices, and that is for a reason. Holly's voice is annoying...
 

TheGoldStandard

Well-Known Member
Guys, KK was either suuuuuper mediocre or just plain bad. Rowe is an upgrade. There’s no doubt about it.
More sideline reporting=more annoying broadcast. That has always been my viewpoint.

I completely agree she has much more knowledge than KK, but KK got very little screen time.
 

TheGoldStandard

Well-Known Member
Maybe you should get a therapist and unpack this...
Haha. There is an insult as a variation of the old saying that you have a voice for radio that says you have a face for radio. There is truth to the talented broadcast voice, and deeper voices are generally lauded for radio and sports broadcast.

If someone won't acknowledge that, and instead think I need therapy, perhaps they are projecting...
 

Handlogten's Heros

Well-Known Member
2019 Award Winner
2020-21 Award Winner
Guys, KK was either suuuuuper mediocre or just plain bad. Rowe is an upgrade. There’s no doubt about it.
She was cute and seemed like she had a fun personality... she didn't know squat about basketball. She asked some weird questions too. Not weird but like the questions where they say "talk about basketball..."
 

KqWIN

Well-Known Member
I personally don't care too much about the quality of analysis, don't think it's needed for a good broadcast. What I do like about Holly is that she is anti cringe and just does a good job without being awkward which is a good offset for Boler and Thurl cheesiness. I don't mind the cheesiness, it's not the worst, but it was too much with KK sometimes.
 

Handlogten's Heros

Well-Known Member
2019 Award Winner
2020-21 Award Winner
Or maybe I've never found her to be talented, and don't like more and more time on the sidelines taking away from seeing the court. We'll see how others feel as the season goes on, but I always found her analysis on ESPN to be annoying. Does anyone else like sideline reporting? At least Kristen got very little reporting time other than post-game. Sideline reporting is annoying. Don't care if it is Kristen, Holly or some dude. The more you go to the sideline, the more disruptive and annoying it is.

I'm happy to have women in sports. No problem with women referees (other than Violet Palmer, because she was a horrible referee), coaches, etc. Off-hand, Rachel Nichols does a good job, and Doris Burke has a good voice for announcing, just doesn't do enough research on small market teams, but that is often the case for national broadcasters.

My understanding is they are going to use her more and more for sideline takes, which I always find annoying anyway. She's probably better than Steve Brown or Alema, but that isn't saying much.

I tend to rate people for their ability. Frankly, I'm not sure why the producers in every league tend to give women announcers more "face time" vs just hearing their voices. I just want to watch the game.

That said Holly Rowe has always annoyed me. Bonnie Bernstein always seemed to have done much better analysis and she is much more articulate, yet Rowe seemed to get more games.

I will say, that deep, male voices are easier on the ears for a full broadcast. Marv Albert is a great example. If you watch most news programs or sports broadcasts, the females also tend to have lower voices, and that is for a reason. Holly's voice is annoying...
I don't know her or remember her work... I just think she likely has had to work harder than most to get where she is and is likely quite good at her job... so if you think her job is annoying that is one thing... if you think she is annoying that is another. I think she is likely the best sideline person we've ever had (which isn't saying much).

Doris does a lot of research... especially for a national broadcaster. I like her well enough but sometimes people go overboard with the praise for her. I also here some call her annoying or grumble when she comes on the TV... I will take her over Reggie Miller, Chris Webber, Mark Jackson, and Hubie/Marv (they just too old) any night. I like Van Gundy (even though he gets a little whiny), Eagle, Breen, etc.
 

Top