16 + 28 + Lakers pick for 5?
EDIT: probably only good enough for 10
Doubt Detroit does that. I wouldn’t do that for 10 either.
16 + 28 + Lakers pick for 5?
EDIT: probably only good enough for 10
There is no way we move up to 3rd without giving up Lauri, but I wish we could find a way to move up to 4th or 5th.
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well said. i'd do the same. if i were a HS kid being discussed as a top 6 or 7 pick, no chance i'd go to college. i'd go OTE, just sit out entirely (like Sharpe and Exum) or go G league. you go OTE or don't play at all, you have nothing to lose (unless you suck in the OTE which would be hard to do if you are any good). G league > college IMO simply because it's a more open game, with more spacing and faster pace and even if you struggle you have the excuse that you're only 18 playing against grown men. college, oth, will expose you due to the lack of spacing, lack of scoring overall, slower pace and general sloppiness of play.OTE is great for their draft stock because you can imagine them becoming any player you want. You can’t really prove that they will be that player, but also can’t prove that they won’t be that player. If I was an elite recruit, I would go this route to solidify my status. I bet guys like GG and Dillon Mitchell would have really benefitted from OTE draft stock wise. Mystery is almost always good for draft stock.
well said. i'd do the same. if i were a HS kid being discussed as a top 6 or 7 pick, no chance i'd go to college. i'd go OTE, just sit out entirely (like Sharpe and Exum) or go G league. you go OTE or don't play at all, you have nothing to lose (unless you suck in the OTE which would be hard to do if you are any good). G league > college IMO simply because it's a more open game, with more spacing and faster pace and even if you struggle you have the excuse that you're only 18 playing against grown men. college, oth, will expose you due to the lack of spacing, lack of scoring overall, slower pace and general sloppiness of play.
well said. i'd do the same. if i were a HS kid being discussed as a top 6 or 7 pick, no chance i'd go to college. i'd go OTE, just sit out entirely (like Sharpe and Exum) or go G league. you go OTE or don't play at all, you have nothing to lose (unless you suck in the OTE which would be hard to do if you are any good). G league > college IMO simply because it's a more open game, with more spacing and faster pace and even if you struggle you have the excuse that you're only 18 playing against grown men. college, oth, will expose you due to the lack of spacing, lack of scoring overall, slower pace and general sloppiness of play.
the thompson twins are the first top 10 guys to play in the ote. so OTE is 2-2. sure it's a small sample, but the points KqWIN made are valid. and seriously, lol - you have no idea (none of us do) how they would be viewed had they played college ball. for all we know they would be the 2nd and 3rd overall picks or they would be 27 and 28. or yes, they could be about where they are now. but to pretend you know is laughable.There is really no basis for that opinion as of now. OTE has never had a player drafted and the Thompson twins would have been viewed just as highly if they went to college. Also I think if Sharpe actually played at Kentucky he would have been firmly in that top 3 pick conversation.
Yeah only chiming in cuz it could have literally been any of the above. Maybe they'd be awesome in college and raise their stock like Miller... maybe they suck and drop like Nick Smith... it could go anyway. Preseason Amen was like 5-8ish and Ausar a bit lower. Beginning of the season I though Amen would end up consensus #3. Ended up being off cuz Miller was awesome.the thompson twins are the first top 10 guys to play in the ote. so OTE is 2-2. sure it's a small sample, but the points KqWIN made are valid. and seriously, lol - you have no idea (none of us do) how they would be viewed had they played college ball. for all we know they would be the 2nd and 3rd overall picks or they would be 27 and 28. or yes, they could be about where they are now. but to pretend you know is laughable.
yep, Miller (Trae Young is another that comes to mind) is a great example of how going to college can help a guy if they are mid to late first, McD's AA and you go play college ball and dominate (granted that is really hard for a frosh to do), you will be top 5-7 at the very least assuming you aren't 5'8".Yeah only chiming in cuz it could have literally been any of the above. Maybe they'd be awesome in college and raise their stock like Miller... maybe they suck and drop like Nick Smith... it could go anyway. Preseason Amen was like 5-8ish and Ausar a bit lower. Beginning of the season I though Amen would end up consensus #3. Ended up being off cuz Miller was awesome.
If our draft was Cam, Cason, and Miller I would need to be hosed down.Biancardi is mostly a HS prospect evaluator, so take his thoughts with a grain of salt, but it's fun to think about - if the draft were to shake out like that, imagine getting Whitmore at 9, again - he only did his top 14, but Cason wasn't in it - so you get CW at 9 and Cason at 16. freaking dream draft right there. though i would try like hell to trade up to take Leonard Miller too.
agree to disagreeIt also would have required trading Lauri for scraps.
Pass me a cigarette. I need it now.If our draft was Cam, Cason, and Miller I would need to be hosed down.
Carson's stature could make him slip. Alot teams in the teens would be swinging for the fences.If our draft was Cam, Cason, and Miller I would need to be hosed down.
There is no way we move up to 3rd without giving up Lauri, but I wish we could find a way to move up to 4th or 5th.
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Russillo said he talked to a team at the combine and they said a player from this years class said his player comp is KD lol. The team that asked him what his player comp was didn’t like that answer. I wonder who it was. Miller or GG are the first two that came to mind.
In your opinion. And maybe for some teams but we have plenty of assets and young players. We don’t need to give Lauri to jump to 3. Lmao
I think you're too smart answer to the question from @framer (what would we need to have done to get those extra losses?) in any way that really nails you down. So I'm guessing you're content to throw out vague answers like this that don't directly say, but can easily be interpreted to mean, that the Jazz's record exceeded their quality of play this year; that if the Jazz weren't such try-hards, we'd have finished with a (worse) record more befitting the actual quality of our team.Lots of assumptions that just aren’t true. Had we lost 4 more games and assumed Portlands spot then we are drafting 3rd. Just a couple more losses and we are drafting 6th. None of that would require trading Lauri or having a miserable season. To drop into the bottoms 4 sure… but there were many super close wins that could have flipped and we’d be in a much better spot.
It still may work out and be fine of course but the difference between us and Portland, Orlando, Indiana and Washington isn’t huge… to trade into those spots it costs at least one future first imo… to get top 3 way more.