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Also, I don't think that Isaac+Cole even comes close to Lauri money-wise. Isaac's contract gets much smaller next year and I think the trades would be executed based on the 2025-2026 salaries.
2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread
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You don't think Jazz would give up Collins/Sexton for a contract+ unprotected '31 Bucks FRP? That's really what we are talking about...not Dame. That pick is the exact kind of asset they should go after and the type of shrewd acquisition Presti was making during their rebuild. Not to mention would make it alot easier to "play hard" every game and not play tank games with veteran guys.
ORL is a good on court fit for Lauri, but not money wise. Banchero and Wagner will be in big money. Lauri is too expensive to be a third guy….and this is a complication for a lot of his potential destination.
Think DET makes the most sense because Cade would be their only max type player going forward.
Think DET makes the most sense because Cade would be their only max type player going forward.
Three-way trade idea:
Jazz out: John Collins & Collin Sexton
Jazz in: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Celtics out: Jrue Holiday
Celtics in: Collin Sexton
Bucks out: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Bucks in: John Collins & Jrue Holiday
Boston saves 13.2M in salary. They would then need to only shed around 6.8M more to completely get under the second apron. They save this much money in one swoop and add a really talented guard in Sexton.
Milwaukee trades Lillard who is likely out for the year for Giannis’ old running mate Jrue and a very serviceable big to help them win games in Collins. Both of those players would immediately improve their roster greatly. The cost of doing business is their 2031 first.
Utah takes on Lillard’s salary and lets him rehab for the entire season. They essentially move off of Collins and Sexton for no production for a year to make the team worse and help the 2026 tank. They also get a very valuable pick asset for taking on so much salary while providing good players in return.
Quite literally a win-win-win trade all the way around for every team.
Jazz out: John Collins & Collin Sexton
Jazz in: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Celtics out: Jrue Holiday
Celtics in: Collin Sexton
Bucks out: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Bucks in: John Collins & Jrue Holiday
Boston saves 13.2M in salary. They would then need to only shed around 6.8M more to completely get under the second apron. They save this much money in one swoop and add a really talented guard in Sexton.
Milwaukee trades Lillard who is likely out for the year for Giannis’ old running mate Jrue and a very serviceable big to help them win games in Collins. Both of those players would immediately improve their roster greatly. The cost of doing business is their 2031 first.
Utah takes on Lillard’s salary and lets him rehab for the entire season. They essentially move off of Collins and Sexton for no production for a year to make the team worse and help the 2026 tank. They also get a very valuable pick asset for taking on so much salary while providing good players in return.
Quite literally a win-win-win trade all the way around for every team.
No way you get it unprotected IMO. At least a top 3 protection would be attached
For Jrue and Collins? That’s a pretty sweet deal. If anything I thought they’d need to add more.
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Why? Dame is essentially dead money until he proves otherwise. If this contract buys them a year or two with Giannis then the rebuild can be affected by an additional year. Make it a super swap or top 4 protected that turns into 2 seconds maybe.
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It sounds like Collins is worth maybe a late first right now, Sexton maybe too... how much is 50-60M in cap space each year worth?
Add it up and I think that's worth a real future first with upside. Not a lot of teams that are able to take Dame. Giannis taking a gap year in his prime in that Eastern Conference is insane... and only to be back in the same place...Dame will still be tough to trade without a sweetner.
So are you trading Giannis or keeping him? If you are keeping him then a trade almost has to happen.
Add it up and I think that's worth a real future first with upside. Not a lot of teams that are able to take Dame. Giannis taking a gap year in his prime in that Eastern Conference is insane... and only to be back in the same place...Dame will still be tough to trade without a sweetner.
So are you trading Giannis or keeping him? If you are keeping him then a trade almost has to happen.
It just feels like too much consolidated value heading to Utah. Boston probably needs a first (from Utah) to make the deal go through
Why? Boston’s main goal is shedding salary to get under the second apron and this saves them a ton of money in one swoop.
Because it's still a pretty large downgrade from Holiday to Sexton
This is why we need The Wheel tbh. I just wish we knew the approximate value of every pick traded instead of these wild futures bets where you are shorting a teams future stock