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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

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I love how triggered *** clowns like Charlie Kirk and Shapiro get with Cortez. Does she remind them of someone from high school who denied them? I don’t know how effective she’ll be at proposing and passing legislation. But I love how easily she owns regressives on social media.

It’s like Pepe keeps trying to kiss the princess and she keeps crushing him with her heels.
 
dalamon said:
clueless is opposing a politician who's trying to implement cheaper healthcare that is better, I would argue. There is simply zero metric that argues for the superiority of multipayer US-style healthcare vs. what the rest of the developed world has.
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There are few posters on this site who are fanboys of Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. So I decided to follow them on twitter and watch a few of their interviews. Needless to say I’m less than impressed.

a) Kirk is nothing more than a Sean Hannity wannabe. He joins the ranks of spoiled yet still virgin dingbats like Jacob Wohl and Tucker Carlson. Republicans are too stupid to understand the irony of a rich white kid born and raised on the coast who’s never worked a day in his life, ranting against coastal elites. Literally, nothing Kirk says is honest not intellectually stimulating. It takes maybe 2 seconds to refute anything he says.

Most of his vitriol is just cow stool on the same anger level of Tomi Lahren, without the tank top.

b) Shapiro is a little more subtle. He’s not as angry and he plays the Jewish card all the time. “I can’t be racist, I’m an Orthodox Jew!” His vitriol is just as dishonest and silly as Kirk’s. I read one of his rants against affirmative action. It took me about 10 seconds (so 5 times more complex than Kirk’s) to see how his cherry picking of stats led to a confirmation bias in his “objective review” of affirmative action.

He honestly just regurgitates the same spittle as all right wingers about higher Edu, women, and minorities but he used big words and throws in a few cherry picked stats.

Like Trump, he likes to throw false statements out there and “win arguments” by a factchecker’s inability to keep up. I watched his interview with Bill Maher. One part stood out in particular. He claimed that, “Trump had done more against Russia than Obama.” Mayer couldn’t keep up and failed to refute this obvious false statement. Clearly, to thoroughly refute this one would have to go into Obama’s failed “reset” with Russia, the Magnitsky Act, and Trump’s lack of enforcing of sanctions.

This is why Shapiro and Kirk are constantly hounding people to debate them. They’re serial liars who merely benefit by having a platform to spew their nonsense.
 
dalamon said:
do u really not feel any shame for being duped by Charlie Kirk with regards to her wardrobe?

Instead of being deadest on satisfying your confirmation bias to smear this politician, how about you ask yourself why you're so quick to insult her, to the point where you're sharing fake news?
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1) I don't know who Charlie Kirk is. How did he dupe people about her wardrobe? Did she pose in a close to 4k outfit with construction workers, etc to show she's for the common people or not? Even if she didn't buy it, it was a terribly bad move imo.
2) If you go back and read my first posts in this thread, I believe I never had any confirmation bias. I admitted I knew very little about her, her stances, socialism, and how it's frustrating I kept seeing the media report conflicting things about her - like who do I believe? I even asked for things to read up on to educate myself about things in this thread.
If you want to be intellectually honest with yourself (you don't) you started the thread and are the champion of confirmation bias in regards to Ocasio Cortez.
3) When you say I'm saying I'm spreading fake news, what are you referencing? The CNN clip I posted you quoted me on? If so, I too agree CNN (and many others) report fake news. What was fake about the interview I posted though?
4) How did I insult her? Because I mentioned her suit? Sigh... I guess this makes me sexist too, right?

I didn't really have an opinion on her when this thread started because I knew nothing of her. My two cents on her now is she talks big and is incapable of backing it up. It's great and refreshing to see a young, motivated, minority and woman do well in politics. However, I expect politicians to be educated (not saying she's not, but she certainly shows ignorance a lot,) articulate, willing to engage in debates, and know why they support certain issues and be able to explain why.

On paper, she seems like the person the left needs. Imo, she's not going to help the left beat what we currently have now. I can admit, I'm certainly not an expert on this - it doesn't hurt my pride. It's nice being able to recognize both the good and bad of political views on all sides.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/nyregion/julia-salazar-jewish-senate-democrat.html

This was an interesting read from the NYTs for me and I have a few thoughts.

1) She's certainly a politician catering to people's confirmation biasses* (not sure if that's the right spelling.):D Still the best thing to happen to politics? To me, she fits right in with being, well, a politician.

2) I respect her for having changed political parties and stances (lord know how much I've changed in the last 10 years) However, I'd respect her more if she was less misleading, more honest and didn't try and push false narratives like... like... politicians do.
 
Archie Moses said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/nyregion/julia-salazar-jewish-senate-democrat.html

This was an interesting read from the NYTs for me and I have a few thoughts.

1) She's certainly a politician catering to people's confirmation biasses* (not sure if that's the right spelling.):D Still the best thing to happen to politics? To me, she fits right in with being, well, a politician.

2) I respect her for having changed political parties and stances (lord know how much I've changed in the last 10 years) However, I'd respect her more if she was less misleading, more honest and didn't try and push false narratives like... like... politicians do.
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Way too young. She's still largely forming her view of the world.

Wisdom is probably the most underrated thing in American politics. The popular calls for term limits are case in point.
 
No one has accused an American politician of being wise in at least 30 years. Maybe 50.
 
Ben Shapiro, stay classy bud stay classy. And he wonders why people like Cortez don’t debate him?

 
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