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Are you guys completely cool with your kids dating/marrying someone of a different race?

Haven't read the entire thread, but I wouldn't care. I'm white and there was a Haitian girl I had a crush on while serving my mission. We talked a lot post mission. She had a thing for me too. My parents knew she liked me and expressed support if I decided to date her.

I also dated a hot Bolivian for a while too and my parents never cared. So...no, I wouldn't care either.i have zero problems with it.

Chicks love that.
 
They shouldn't force their rules on her but you think you can force conditions on them? Ain't happening.

Well, if he truly loves he should be fine with it. What a better way to show your father in law that she is more important then some religious rituals/restrictions? Or should I be happy with him saying, hey I love your daughter but not enough if she is eating pork or shrimp;)
Which brings us back to my question. Would any of hard core religious people be able to live and raise kids together and love somebody who is not of their faith or does not believe in god at all?
 
ok, I thought about it for a bit and I think I would be fine with Muslim ( or other religious person) marrying my daughter as long as they accept her as she is and do not force their beliefs/traditions/rules on her.
So for example I will use hard core Jew as example to not stir pot about muslims anymore... If Jewish man wants to marry my daughter I would have condition like this - he can practice his religion all he wants as long as he is not restricting her diet, clothing, and not forcing her to follow Jewish religious holidays and rituals. Means no circumcision for baby boy unless he wants to do it when he is grown up 18 years old by his own will.
Would any of Muslim posters give freedom of choice for their non muslim wife like that as well? Be honest. Is it even possible?

Yes and yes. I live in Antalya. A favorite vacation location for the Russians. There are many Russian families who are living in Antalya now, and there are even a couple of schools for Russian kids. Some of my friends are married with Russian girls, and they are really happy. I lived in Kazakhstan and dated many Russian girls. I have to admit, it depends on the personality, religion is not the thing that makes people to part their ways, end of love and respect does.
 
Sure pick and choose how to explain your arguement however it suits you from post to post.

Not my fualt you want to take everything the wrong way. But then again if you didn't you wouldn't have anything to hate on people for. Carry on.
 
I think that would better to remain with in your race and religion as to avoid any such issues. As there could be lots of complications in having any such relations. But anyhow the more important thing is your self-respect and understanding. If it's there then nothing would be better than that.
 
Obvious to you based on your preferred point of view and what you prefer to believe/disbelieve.

Obvious based on what misogyny is.

How about a per person angst rating?

Your population demographics argument is just that, arguable.

It's statistically studiable.

Objective from who's point of view?

From the point of view that carefully done surveys can, cumulatively, reveal actual indications of the populace.
 
I think it was pretty obvious. That you are right and we are wrong.

Well, I almost never argue for positions where I think I'm wrong and other people are right, so that's not really saying much. In particular, it's not saying much about this particular issue, racism.
 
Well, I almost never argue for positions where I think I'm wrong and other people are right, so that's not really saying much. In particular, it's not saying much about this particular issue, racism.

And you are on here arguing about everything that coem sup. Gun rights, religion, abortion, Social Security, debt...so my statement stands.
 
And you are on here arguing about everything that coem sup. Gun rights, religion, abortion, Social Security, debt...so my statement stands.

I appreciate the rarity with which you are on the other side of those arguments, and the very clever way you avoided answering my question.
 
Obvious based on what misogyny is.
Based on what you perceive as misogyny based on what your point of view is. Stop pretending to be Mr Objective that sees things from multiple points of view. You have your stance, and think you are right, and that's great and all, but it's just your point of view based on where you are standing and what direction you are looking. I tend to disagree with most of your definitions, and I obviously have a different point of view of the same situations.


It's statistically studiable.

Anything can be studied. It doesn't mean anything useful will come of it.

From the point of view that carefully done surveys can, cumulatively, reveal actual indications of the populace.

I've seen plenty of "objective studies" on topics that have varied results. You can find an "objective study" to backup whatever point you want to make these days, and another one in conflict with it.
Try as we might to be objective, there are always point of view issues.

You would never see an "objective study" done by LDS backed research on any topic that backed up their beliefs as objective would you. You would most likely only view an objective study as being done from the point of view of someone outside of the whole religious argument, which would probably make them non-religious like yourself. Yes, I am saying this based only on posts of yours that I've read and my perception of you, but that's the way I see it. Again, a point of view issue that may have some truth to it, but probably misses the mark in some ways too.
 
What view would that be? You should at least be able to articulate a view before saying someone is mistaken in holding it.

If you mean this question than I did answer it. Even if it was in a simplistic way.

If you want elaboration than I guess I can indulge you this time. You are egotistical enough to think that you are more enlightened on all the subjects that you debate than all those around you. You view your opinions and stances as the only ones that can be right. Your responses have a ring of egotistical elitism to them.

I like you One Brow and I consider you an intelligent person whose opinion I like to hear, even if I disagree. Just an observation.
 
Please explain

in part because so many people think misogyny can only refer to active dislikes).

Sorry, do not understand your intended meaning. Are you saying that misogyny can also refer to liking women? Or are you saying that misogyny can also refer to inactively disliking women? Or something else altogether?
 
Yes and yes. I live in Antalya. A favorite vacation location for the Russians. There are many Russian families who are living in Antalya now, and there are even a couple of schools for Russian kids. Some of my friends are married with Russian girls, and they are really happy. I lived in Kazakhstan and dated many Russian girls. I have to admit, it depends on the personality, religion is not the thing that makes people to part their ways, end of love and respect does.

Well, thats nice to know. Thanks for input. And yes, Antalya is great;)
 
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