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At the 1/4 Season Mark, How Are We Doing?

So you think his PER is lying? Royce's defense and lack of size at the 3/4 makes up for his limited offense? Royce is starting material? He is a good ball handler and passer? What exactly do you disagree with?

With two small (for NBA standards) players in Conley and Mitchell, w3 need more size in the starting lineup. 6'4" Royce at the 3/3 exacerbates the issue.
I'm not sure PER is a relevant statistic to impact on a winning lineup. Royce is actually a better defend on wings than he is on guards, so I'm not sure how his size is hurting him, especially given his historically good rebounding rates.
 
Royce is our third highest player in MPG. He’s behind only Donovan and Rudy, and is only 0.4 MPG behind Rudy. That’s crazy. Last year he was #2.
 
So you think his PER is lying? Royce's defense and lack of size at the 3/4 makes up for his limited offense? Royce is starting material? He is a good ball handler and passer? What exactly do you disagree with?

With two small (for NBA standards) players in Conley and Mitchell, w3 need more size in the starting lineup. 6'4" Royce at the 3/3 exacerbates the issue.
Royce’s 6’4” plays bigger and faster than whatever Joe’s measurements are.

I think there are several stats that are eye-raising. I’m not overreacting to any one of them. I’m more focused on the full product I see on the court.

I’d be fine with starting Joe. I think that’s clear, right?
 
I'm not sure PER is a relevant statistic to impact on a winning lineup. Royce is actually a better defend on wings than he is on guards, so I'm not sure how his size is hurting him, especially given his historically good rebounding rates.
Royce is 317 in Player Impact Rating, -1.7 on D, and a 9 net differential (in a starting lineup).

Joe's PIE is 192, and his off rating is almost 11 points higher than his defensive rating is -3.5. And that is with a relatively poor start.
Royce’s 6’4” plays bigger and faster than whatever Joe’s measurements are.

I think there are several stats that are eye-raising. I’m not overreacting to any one of them. I’m more focused on the full product I see on the court.

I’d be fine with starting Joe. I think that’s clear, right?
Faster I will agree with. Bigger, I disagree. Joe can actually hold off bigger sfs and pfs in the post (comparatively). I agree Royce plays bigger than his size.

It's all academic as Quin won't move Royce to the pine.
 
Quin needs to play the matchups
If Ingles matches up better with other teams starter play him
If Royce matches up better start him
Neither guy has to start every game
 
Fine.

That's almost all I have. Fine. Not amazing, yet the Jazz are pretty solid at home and the road, have the 3rd best record in the West, and are actually blowing teams out more often than not this year. A bit unlucky at time, and haven't really played great teams yet. I think Gay is a solid addition and will start to get better as he plays more games. He already provides a scoring option off the bench that can get his own shot. If Clarkson and Mitchell start to get back to shooting at a slightly respectable percentage the Jazz will win a lot of games this year.
 
Steve Kerr just made a defensive substitution for the last 3 seconds of the 1st quarter. He did it in a flash and the players popped off the bench.

Everyone is responsible for creating a culture of valuing every possession.

Just thought I’d put this factoid in this thread.
 
Steve Kerr just made a defensive substitution for the last 3 seconds of the 1st quarter. He did it in a flash and the players popped off the bench.

Everyone is responsible for creating a culture of valuing every possession.

Just thought I’d put this factoid in this thread.
Every possession is kind of extreme. What are the odds that using that challenge will be the difference between a win and a loss? What are the odds that putting up a shot with 2.4 seconds on the clock before the half, rather than just dribbling out the clock, will matter? Why close out a quarter strong when there’s a full 12 minutes left and you’ll get the first possession? If you’re that bad that you need to worry so much about every possession, then you’re not the team with the #1 offensive rating. It’s our advanced, amalgamated metrics that are going to carry us to a title, not our passion or “valuing possessions.” There are no blind spots to being a #1 offense.
 
I mean just watch Suns versus the Warriors tonight and compare their game to the Jazz. I think it's pretty clear to see how we are doing and what we are still lacking.
 
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