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Catchall, babe, or eenie-meenie? More wild stories?

I'm working on some really good ones, but the tldnr crowd is not my best market.

I can see you contracted the Chinese compliance virus or the Chinese social credits virus. Take care. Put your cognitive tools in a safe place, or ship them back home before they're irreparably damaged.
 
always debatable why steep market declines are happening. A lot of people have been sitting on the edge of their seats for a long time, looking for signs of the beginning of a "correction". A whole damn lot of automated market tools are being triggered as stop-loss orders flood in.

But the vulnerability of our global industrial supply chains is a huge factor, indeed..... along with impacts on travel and entertainment industries.
When they were going up it wasn't debatable. When they were going up it was because of Trump.

If he wants to own the DOW then let him own the DOW.
 
always debatable why steep market declines are happening. A lot of people have been sitting on the edge of their seats for a long time, looking for signs of the beginning of a "correction". A whole damn lot of automated market tools are being triggered as stop-loss orders flood in.

But the vulnerability of our global industrial supply chains is a huge factor, indeed..... along with impacts on travel and entertainment industries.


Typically, when investors feel the **** is hitting fan precious metals go up.

Gold went down this week like $60 an ounce.

This is part of a slow down that has building up for months. The panic over the virus might be a catalyst for short term swings in numbers - but it's certainly not the root cause.
 
The fact that you are "researching" stuff like this and even entertaining it's truthfulness says a lot.

depending on your complicity score, or participation score, in global population management schemes, this can be a good thing just as much as your insinuation that it's bad.

Only a political hack employed to calm or direct public opinion need worry about alarmist theories being hatched free-will all over the world. Even I don't have time to examine them all, and nobody believes them in the first place. They are basically conjectural in nature, and anyone who takes one serious is already in the mode of fabricating further refinements on some damn near endless list of possibilities.

More to the point, reasonable people today don't just simply believe anything our Media or our government says in the first place. It's almost Un-American not to question authority.
 
When they were going up it wasn't debatable. When they were going up it was because of Trump.

If he wants to own the DOW then let him own the DOW.

I have long understood how DumpTrumpsters will make use of Trumps bragging when things head south. I've been trying to tell my wife, who knows better than to listen to me, to back her 401(k) fund off the up bet at least for this year, because I fully expect Soros, Gates, Blumenthal, the Kock Brothers, the Rockefellers and Fords and all the other "Right People" old money hags, as well as the politically invested technology believers in globalism, to run a dump on the Dow pump machine.

But Trump won't listen to me any better than my wife does. Damn people. I go around telling everyone to think for themselves, and it's a fright when they listen to me.
 
I have long understood how DumpTrumpsters will make use of Trumps bragging when things head south. I've been trying to tell my wife, who knows better than to listen to me, to back her 401(k) fund off the up bet at least for this year, because I fully expect Soros, Gates, Blumenthal, the Kock Brothers, the Rockefellers and Fords and all the other "Right People" old money hags, as well as the politically invested technology believers in globalism, to run a dump on the Dow pump machine.

But Trump won't listen to me any better than my wife does. Damn people. I go around telling everyone to think for themselves, and it's a fright when they listen to me.
Trump was taking credit for the DOW.

Did you admonish that behavior when the DOW was up?

If you did please post the link.

If you didn't, why didn't you?
 
Typically, when investors feel the **** is hitting fan precious metals go up.

Gold went down this week like $60 an ounce.

This is part of a slow down that has building up for months. The panic over the virus might be a catalyst for short term swings in numbers - but it's certainly not the root cause.

But Gold and Silver have had a recent spike of 200 for gold and 4 for silver..... I think a lot of Chinese buying going on.

If it is all there is to it, I'd give it about two months to reverse itself and blow up into a bigger bubble than ever..... Dow down to 20k, then up to 35k....Crazy times.

Because, if it's just supply chain problems and fear impacts on travel and recreation, or employee absenteeism and production reductions, there will be a huge rebound when the vaccine(s) are being publicly dispersed. And the crazy Trump optimism looks like a juggernaut heading into Election 2020, especially considering the weak sister Dem offerings.

This weekend is CPAC, and if you get onto XM 125 The Patriot, just one notch from the XM lefty channel you probably listen to, you'll see how optimistic it looks for the
Trumpsters.
 
Trump was taking credit for the DOW.

Did you admonish that behavior when the DOW was up?

If you did please post the link.

If you didn't, why didn't you?

No sir. Not worth the effort. He deserves the up credit because he created a more business-friendly situation than Obama did. Obama and the progressive globalists have been working on suppressing the American economy, and building up China, for decades, encouraging export of high-paying jobs to cheap labor markets, to the benefit of non-American Corporate endtities, which our insider class of globalist corporate interests have invested in overseas. Trump has been making the playing field more competitive for American-located production, bringing jobs back here.

American workers are about 10X in productivity per employee than almost any other place. Skill, equipment, experience, work ethic culture. A Chinese yogurt plant would use less productive investment in machinery and a lot more little workers trying to make yogurt in little batches.

I do believe Trump ought to crow less, and I fully recognize that a correction is usual after a run up in the markets, and long overdue.

But this "correction" has a rational, realistic basis in impacts froim a developing pandemic, though I expect the fear projections right now can and should be met with a very successful response in developing a vaccine, and in public measures like aggressive testing and all kinds of behavioral and managerial effective measures like encouraging sniffly employees to stay home a few days, travel restrictions, quarantines.

I think Trump began appropriate responses early in January, and that the measures have helped. I believe we have good hope for an effective vaccine available with two to three months.

I think realistically, this will be a pandemic with over 40% of the world population being affected. Mortality rates will be higher in undeveloped areas with less health care infrastructure. It looks like CoViD-19 is over 100X ordinary flue in transmissability, and in mortality rate as well. So I expect the death toll could go into the millions worldwide.

Still, I think my little protocol for personal protection is as effective as any vaccine we will produce. Masks will be in short supply, but we can attack the transmission vectors with bleach fumes, chlorine and ozone, or uv lights, which will directly destroy the virus in the air, or in the upper respiratory track. And in fact, if it goes to the lungs, where is causes cell death in the lining tissues and enables opportunistic secondary infections and sepsis or toxic shock capable of causing lethal organ failures, I think there is a safe dose of chlorine that will kill the virus in the lung surfaces without significant additional damage to lung tissues.....But I'm not the doctor.

I use bleach almost daily in my work, and have done so for years. I never get the flu shots, and I haven't had the flu in years. Even when the rest of the family is down with it. Sometimes I use too much bleach in my routine, enough to send the uninitiated running for fresh air, enough I smell like it for hours after, or until I take a bath. But it is the active ingredient in effective disinfectants, and I use it for its antiviral potency in my job.

So, the fact that nobody listens to me is a bit disheartening, but the standard protocols are also going to be effective. The morbid effects of serious pneumonia will largely be the result of people not having the information, the masks, the sense to wash hands or disinfect their personal space, or the ability to just stay home, or the health care and vaccinations. Africa and Brazil, India and the Middle East, will be affected more than east Asia, where the health care and education is better. And God save North Korea, which has a large migratory work force in China and a lot of back and forth movement. And no serious health infrastructure.
 
When the Dow goes up it’s all due to trump.
When it drops it’s all due to something else.

Got it. Definitely not a cult.
 
Speaking of censorship



I listened to the Presidential news conference where Pence was announced, and to his CPAC speech. It really looks to me like he is in full management mode, and will seriously try to stop "leaks" from suspected Trumpdumpster sorts, Obama plants, in our various agencies.

I'm more of a "let it all hang out" sort of guy myself, perfectly pleased to sort out the trash. But I don't think Trump or Pence is anything near what a Hillary or Obama would be in terms of "damage control" politics. I know Xi is in full suppression mode, and has been since December. But he did take crucial action in getting the genome and sending it out to labs. International positive action. But we still need CatchAll and about a zillion speculators to fill in the blanks...….
 
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When the Dow goes up it’s all due to trump.
When it drops it’s all due to something else.

Got it. Definitely not a cult.

Why go to the "Cult" slur when it's explained well enough by policy and regulatory adjustments and a pandemic originating in China.

I don't think politicizing the pandemic is constructive or relevant. Trump was criticized for his early travel restriction announcement regarding the affected area of China, preventing untested, unscreened, or un-evaluated people from coming here from areas known to be affected in China. His critics were pretty hot in opposing that.

Pelosi and the dems were almost absolutely focused on impeachment, and held no hearings, allocated no money, produced no bill supporting investigation, research, or prevention of CoViD-19 pandemic, and now, months after Trump's early actions, they still have no real plan, but they did appropriate money recently.

Trump asked for 2.5B, and Pelosi upped it to 8.5, and Trump said "Sure". Trump will do whatever he knows to do with whatever tools or capabilities he is given.
 
Why go to the "Cult" slur when it's explained well enough by policy and regulatory adjustments and a pandemic originating in China.

I don't think politicizing the pandemic is constructive or relevant. Trump was criticized for his early travel restriction announcement regarding the affected area of China, preventing untested, unscreened, or un-evaluated people from coming here from areas known to be affected in China. His critics were pretty hot in opposing that.

Pelosi and the dems were almost absolutely focused on impeachment, and held no hearings, allocated no money, produced no bill supporting investigation, research, or prevention of CoViD-19 pandemic, and now, months after Trump's early actions, they still have no real plan, but they did appropriate money recently.

Trump asked for 2.5B, and Pelosi upped it to 8.5, and Trump said "Sure". Trump will do whatever he knows to do with whatever tools or capabilities he is given.
Warren has a plan. Tear down the wall that's meant exactly for security reasons like this, open the borders so we have no clue who's coming in, and use that money to fund vaccine research because throwing money at the issue will make the virus go away.
 
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