Coronavirus

[One Brow]

So saying there is a 90 year old, in a nursing home, with a non operable tumor, just riding out hospice care until they died. Seems like something that is not that uncommon for these deaths. They may have contracted covid, but they were centimeters away from death in the first place. Would they be labeled as a COVID death for the graphs?

1) That's a call for their doctor, as it should be.
2) That's not a significantly high number of covid19 deaths.

Or a 75 year old, not in the hospital, luckily just dies in his bed during his sleeo, never diagnosed during his lifetime, showed no symptoms, but is tested post death and is found to have COVID 19. Would this count as a COVID death?

1) Why are they testing for SARS-COV2 post-mortem? I don't think that is a thing.
2) If they didn't show symptoms, they didn't have covid19, even if they are positive for SARS-COV2. The general public treats them as the same thing, but they are not.

Because from what I understand, both cased would count as a covid death despite COVID most likely being a very small part of their cause of death or basically playing no part at all.

What are your sources for this understanding?

If @infection is willing, I would love to hear his confirmations and corrections of my responses.

 

[One Brow]

Fear mongering that COVID is far far more dangerous than it really is leading to economic shut downs, small businesses closing, large business lay offs, kids losing out on homes and food, schools closing, parents having to figure out how they can work and have their kids at home, parents not being able to work at all, etc .... all so a bunch of people who are knocking on deaths door can get a few more months in a nursing home.

We are using the same standards for deciding covid19 deaths that we use for cancer deaths, flu deaths, etc.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Both parties are the same. Why hasn’t Pelosi passed a covid relief bill in the senate? Both parties are the same...

 

[Rubashov]

TBH I'd much much much take the USA's seemingly relaxed approach than Australias. And I also think labeling the USA's approach as relaxed is a stretch too. Gavin over in California is absolutely ******** the bed far worse than Trump is right now. He's just flailing, not using reason or logic at all, just to kiss the *** of the CA elite for whom this pandemic doesn't really effect all that much.

No cases, no deaths last two days. Pubs open at midnight tonight. Giddy up!

 

[Gameface]

No cases, no deaths last two days. Pubs open at midnight tonight. Giddy up!

RIP Rubashov

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[candrew]

We are using the same standards for deciding covid19 deaths that we use for cancer deaths, flu deaths, etc.

 

[Rubashov]

RIP Rubashov

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You actually need a booking to go to the boozer easier said than done. Things will hopefully get easier in a couple of weeks.

 

[Beer]

Well obviously frontline healthcare workers aren't profiting off anything, but hospitals who are being forced to cancel elective surgeries are doing it in order to stay open. Allegedly, anyways.

 

[One Brow]

Well obviously frontline healthcare workers aren't profiting off anything, but hospitals who are being forced to cancel elective surgeries are doing it in order to stay open. Allegedly, anyways.

Doing what, precisely? The hospital my job is associated with would love to get in on the cash so they can bring back more people.

 

[Beer]

Doing what, precisely? The hospital my job is associated with would love to get in on the cash so they can bring back more people.

I'm not sure how reliable fact check is but here is this article. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

Long story short, yes hospitals get reimbursed more for COVID patients, especially if they are put on ventilators. But we don't think they are lying about it, but they very well could and be in order to recoup some lost $$ from other departments being shut down.

 

[One Brow]

Considering the additional precautions needed, reimbursing 20% more for COVID than for flu seems reasonable.

These Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements ultimately are tied to procedures. If a hospital bills for a Covid-specific procedure without applying that procedure to a patient, that is fraud.

 

[Beer]

Considering the additional precautions needed, reimbursing 20% more for COVID than for flu seems reasonable.

These Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements ultimately are tied to procedures. If a hospital bills for a Covid-specific procedure without applying that procedure to a patient, that is fraud.

I don't really have a problem with the 20% payments, but it does leave the door wide open for these for profit hospitals to make questionable diagnosis or unrealistic COD's. Especially when they are getting killed because they have to shut half the hospital down to take care of the COVID patients. So I'm not really blaming anyone but I dont really trust the death count all that much. And I know I'm a cold hearted ******* but I'm not too worried about 80 + year olds in nursing homes dying. That's what happens to 80+ year olds in nursing homes.