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lauriandres said:
Unlike in some parts in the world it is good to see that nice scientific attitude is in action in Hong Kong:
https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-covid-hamsters-animals-75f2d3507bdb8255cd2aee79e962fc35
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I have so many questions about this article.

1. "The pet shop employee tested positive for the delta variant on Monday, and several hamsters imported from the Netherlands at the store tested positive as well."
The Netherlands is sending weaponized hamsters to Hong Kong? Which leads me to...

2. "...several hamsters imported from the Netherlands..."
The Netherlands exports hamsters? Is there not a hamster breeder in all of Hong Kong? Sounds like a good business opportunity.

3. "Hong Kong authorities said Tuesday that they will kill about 2,000 small animals, including hamsters, after several tested positive for the coronavirus at a pet store where an employee was also infected."
Why would you test a hamster for covid in the first place? Are they testing all animals?

4. "Customers who purchased hamsters from the store after Jan. 7 will be traced and be subject to mandatory quarantine and must hand over their hamsters to authorities to be put down, officials said."
Pet stores in Hong Kong keep a registry of everyone that buys a hamster?

5. "Leung Siu-fai, director of the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department, said during a news conference that owners should keep hamsters at home, and not take them out."
People in Hong Kong take their hamsters out for a walk?

6. "They said all pet stores in Hong Kong must stop selling hamsters and that about 2,000 small mammals, including hamsters and chinchillas, will be killed in a humane manner."
Why would they not simply quarantine the animals instead of killing them? Did they test all of the hamsters to be killed or is this a case of hamster discrimination?

I don't find much about this situation scientific at all. It seems mostly about fear and irrationality.
 
Scat said:
I have so many questions about this article.

1. "The pet shop employee tested positive for the delta variant on Monday, and several hamsters imported from the Netherlands at the store tested positive as well."
The Netherlands is sending weaponized hamsters to Hong Kong? Which leads me to...

2. "...several hamsters imported from the Netherlands..."
The Netherlands exports hamsters? Is there not a hamster breeder in all of Hong Kong? Sounds like a good business opportunity.

3. "Hong Kong authorities said Tuesday that they will kill about 2,000 small animals, including hamsters, after several tested positive for the coronavirus at a pet store where an employee was also infected."
Why would you test a hamster for covid in the first place? Are they testing all animals?

4. "Customers who purchased hamsters from the store after Jan. 7 will be traced and be subject to mandatory quarantine and must hand over their hamsters to authorities to be put down, officials said."
Pet stores in Hong Kong keep a registry of everyone that buys a hamster?

5. "Leung Siu-fai, director of the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department, said during a news conference that owners should keep hamsters at home, and not take them out."
People in Hong Kong take their hamsters out for a walk?

6. "They said all pet stores in Hong Kong must stop selling hamsters and that about 2,000 small mammals, including hamsters and chinchillas, will be killed in a humane manner."
Why would they not simply quarantine the animals instead of killing them? Did they test all of the hamsters to be killed or is this a case of hamster discrimination?

I don't find much about this situation scientific at all. It seems mostly about fear and irrationality.
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Here is some more information (use Google translate):
https://m.mingpao.com/ins/%E6%B8%AF%E8% ... 4%E5%87%BA

Our family also has a hamster as pet. Imported from Poland. When it told about this (that Hong Kong officials plan what they plan) to my daughter she almost started to cry.
My sarcastic point was that we have a fair share of people in every country, who state that "science and government officials should be almost blindly trusted". I am pretty sure that those who made that kind of decision in Hong Kong have some kind of university education/degree.
 
I still feel pretty sick, but am doing a lot better. I'm taking hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and liposomal glutathione.

I'm certainly not a doctor, but I know my body. Hydroxychloroquine reduces my cough and sore throat 10 minutes after taking it and is effective for about 8 to 10 hours. I take two of those a day and it's been a game changer.

I was a little hesitant to take them at first, but tbh, I was so desperate/scared and in so much pain I would have tried almost anything.

The newest Covid symptom I've been having is sweating uncontrollable throughout my whole body. The last two nights I've woken up and my clothes and bed were soaked. It's so gross.
 
The Thriller said:
Our health care delivery system is the worst of all industrialized nations. We have fine doctors and nurses. But the chokehold that the insurance and pharma industries have on people and this country is just disgusting. Hope you get better soon. When I had Covid (pre-vax) downing regular Mucinex (not the D one), nasal spray, and hot showers helped a lot.
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Thank you, Thriller
 
Archie Moses said:
I still feel pretty sick, but am doing a lot better. I'm taking hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and liposomal glutathione.

I'm certainly not a doctor, but I know my body. Hydroxychloroquine reduces my cough and sore throat 10 minutes after taking it and is effective for about 8 to 10 hours. I take two of those a day and it's been a game changer.

I was a little hesitant to take them at first, but tbh, I was so desperate/scared and in so much pain I would have tried almost anything.

The newest Covid symptom I've been having is sweating uncontrollable throughout my whole body. The last two nights I've woken up and my clothes and bed were soaked. It's so gross.
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I hope you start feeling better and come through this with no complications. Take care of yourself Archie.
 
Archie Moses said:
I'm certainly not a doctor, but I know my body. Hydroxychloroquine reduces my cough and sore throat 10 minutes after taking it and is effective for about 8 to 10 hours. I take two of those a day and it's been a game changer.
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I'm glad you've found something where you feel better after you take it.
 
I also have the 'VID that was passed on courtesy of my 2 yr old. Joys of day care.

I had a 100° fever on Sunday and a headache for a few days the ibuprofen has taken care of. Also a bit tired.

Other than that, not bad so far. Definitely glad I'm vaccinated and boosted.
 
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lauriandres said:
Here is some more information (use Google translate):
https://m.mingpao.com/ins/%E6%B8%AF%E8% ... 4%E5%87%BA

Our family also has a hamster as pet. Imported from Poland. When it told about this (that Hong Kong officials plan what they plan) to my daughter she almost started to cry.
My sarcastic point was that we have a fair share of people in every country, who state that "science and government officials should be almost blindly trusted". I am pretty sure that those who made that kind of decision in Hong Kong have some kind of university education/degree.
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Please do not kiss your hamster or take it out for a walk.
 
Archie Moses said:
The newest Covid symptom I've been having is sweating uncontrollable throughout my whole body. The last two nights I've woken up and my clothes and bed were soaked. It's so gross.
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I read just yesterday that a new symptom of omicron is conjunctivitis. Are your eyes red and you wake up with discharge in your eyes?

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz www.newshub.co.nz
 
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