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YoungJefe said:
According to SI: 2023 1st, 2024 1st (via GS), 2025 1st, 2027 1st, 2029 1st / pick swaps in 2024, 2026, 2028
Plus I'm assuming Ziaire Williams, Brandon Clarke, Dillon Brooks and other filler.
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How exactly is that a better offer? I also heard they didn’t get all of the pick swaps from Phoenix because of their future picks owed to Houston.
 
YoungJefe said:
Why would he want to land in another small market in the West that isn't close to contention? Teams like Boston, Miami, Philadelphia, etc. would give him a way better chance to win now.

Memphis apparently offered them every single pick that they had and any collection of players on their roster outside of Ja, JJJ, and Bane.
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Because he has said he wants to play here and Boston, Philly, and Miami don't have the assets to land him. I would assume that if the Jazz traded for Dame they would be serious buyers for other pieces. It is not like the West is full of Titans. Moving to Denver's level with Kessler, Dame, and Lauri already in hand shouldn't be that difficult.
 
framer said:
Because he has said he wants to play here and Boston, Philly, and Miami don't have the assets to land him. I would assume that if the Jazz traded for Dame they would be serious buyers for other pieces. It is not like the West is full of Titans. Moving to Denver's level with Kessler, Dame, and Lauri already in hand shouldn't be that difficult.
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I don't think he loves the SLC market so much that he'd leave Portland to come here and not contend, if he asks out he's going to be seeking a championship level situation, just like every other superstar player that has asked out.

If we're serious buyers for other pieces are we just going to gut all of our draft assets to chase a championship with Dame/Lauri?

Boston could offer Smart, Williams, and draft picks. What can we offer that's better than that?
 
The Raptors could offer some combination of FVV / GTJ / OG + draft picks, for fun lets just say they gave up FVV / OG and draft picks for him.

Dame - GTJ - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl

That's infinitely closer to contention than any roster we could realistically put together.
 
YoungJefe said:
He's going to demand out of Portland because he hasn't been able to contend there to go to another small market team that isn't close to contention, makes sense.
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Except that the Jazz supporting cast is better than the Portland supporting cast and we have a bunch of assets we could use to fill in some gaps lol.

Lauri would be the best teammate Dame has had since Aldridge? Walker would be a player type Dame has never had. We would still have a bunch of flexibility to add around him as well.

Currently he hopes Grant re-signs and has another small guard as his co-star... they are essentially capped out and have limited ability to trade picks.
 
YoungJefe said:
I don't think he loves the SLC market so much that he'd leave Portland to come here and not contend, if he asks out he's going to be seeking a championship level situation, just like every other superstar player that has asked out.

If we're serious buyers for other pieces are we just going to gut all of our draft assets to chase a championship with Dame/Lauri?

Boston could offer Smart, Williams, and draft picks. What can we offer that's better than that?
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What picks? They have already traded a bunch... how much extra salary are they adding to those two... and wtf does Portland do with Smart and Williams if they are rebuilding.

Its partly about his new destination but also partly just getting out of Portland... their ownership situation sucks and they aren't really going anywhere.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Except that the Jazz supporting cast is better than the Portland supporting cast and we have a bunch of assets we could use to fill in some gaps lol.

Lauri would be the best teammate Dame has had since Aldridge? Walker would be a player type Dame has never had. We would still have a bunch of flexibility to add around him as well.

Currently he hopes Grant re-signs and has another small guard as his co-star... they are essentially capped out and have limited ability to trade picks.
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So what exactly are we trading for Dame in this scenario if we're keeping Kessler? They're going to part ways with him and the best young player they're getting back is Ochai Agbaji?

I like Dame and Lauri but that's not getting you a championship without another All-Star level talent and a great group of role plays.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
What picks? They have already traded a bunch... how much extra salary are they adding to those two... and wtf does Portland do with Smart and Williams if they are rebuilding.

Its partly about his new destination but also partly just getting out of Portland... their ownership situation sucks and they aren't really going anywhere.
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Whatever picks they can trade, I haven't checked it. Why would they want a 25 year old All-NBA defensive center if they're rebuilding? Grant Williams could also be a part of a potential package as well.

With as much as he has preached loyalty and the grind, I don't think he's asking for a parallel move, he's going to want to contend.
 
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