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I think we underestimate how much influence celebrities and famous people can have on kids. Now she is fat and that sends a message to kids that, hey if Clarkson with her 30 mil net worth can remain fat, why would I bother to eat healthy and exercise or worry about my health? Would we shame somebody for smoking and doing drugs? Equally unhealthy life style choices IMHO.

How many millions of Americans make unhealthy lifestyle choices because of their lack of access to healthy lifestyle choices? This is much more problematic than some kid ****ing seeing Kelly Clarkson (which teenagers of today gave two ****s about this woman anyways) and justifying to themselves that being fat isn't stopping her from acclaiming fame.
 
How many millions of Americans make unhealthy lifestyle choices because of their lack of access to healthy lifestyle choices?.

That as well was part of the point. She has every single mean available to her, so basically no excuses.
As much as we hate to admit but obesity associates with laziness in subconscious. There was study done and it was found that employers will less likely hire obese candidates no mater how much more impressive their resumes are compared to fit people.
 
That as well was part of the point. She has every single mean available to her, so basically no excuses.
As much as we hate to admit but obesity associates with laziness in subconscious. There was study done and it was found that employers will less likely hire obese candidates no mater how much more impressive their resumes are compared to fit people.

You're thinking too small scale-- there's lazy people all over the world. So, why is it that only recently have lazy people started getting fat? And why is this phenomenon so varied from country to country? Are America's 'lazy' lazier than Italy's "lazy"?


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Ok so maybe shaming is not the answer. But I hate when people trying to sell obesity as beautiful just because person feels that way. I hate messages to teenagers telling them that don't worry about your weight - you are beautiful the way you are. That is plain wrong in my opinion.
 
Ok so maybe shaming is not the answer. But I hate when people trying to sell obesity as beautiful just because person feels that way. I hate messages to teenagers telling them that don't worry about your weight - you are beautiful the way you are. That is plain wrong in my opinion.


Okay, that's fine, but we trade our health for various pursuits of pleasure. Not all of them make us fat. Seems like either you're being a Nazi about it (as in we all have a responsibility to strive for master race perfection) or else you just hate fat people for being ugly.

Yeah, being overweight is generally unhealthy. There are a lot of ways to be an unhealthy person with or without being overweight. Seems like you have a special dislike for fat people, and it really has nothing to do with their health.
 
You're thinking too small scale-- there's lazy people all over the world. So, why is it that only recently have lazy people started getting fat? And why is this phenomenon so varied from country to country? Are America's 'lazy' lazier than Italy's "lazy"?


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Good question. I wonder if anybody ever compared drive through numbers in N.America and other countries. Simple example - last week I stopped by Tim Hortons to get coffee - about 10 cars idling in drive through wasting gas and time, polluting environment and being to lazy to move a muscle. I came inside, not a single person. Got my coffee, chatted with nice girl and went back to my car. I made few more extra steps than those 10 people waiting in drive through - small thing but it adds up during the day when it comes to burning calories. Now granted maybe some of them had their reasons, maybe there was a handicapped person or somebody with sprained ankle, but you get my point.
 
Ok so maybe shaming is not the answer. But I hate when people trying to sell obesity as beautiful just because person feels that way. I hate messages to teenagers telling them that don't worry about your weight - you are beautiful the way you are. That is plain wrong in my opinion.

Agreed.

I have zero answer for how to tackle the issue, although I wish I did. It is a major battle on both sides of my family.
 
Seems like either you're being a Nazi about it (as in we all have a responsibility to strive for master race perfection) or else you just hate fat people for being ugly.

Interesting point. I do not like word Nazi though, how about being Spartan about it?
 
SHaming is 100% not the solution to addressing obesity-- and we can do lots to reverse obesity rates w/o shaming a single person.

Agreed. And it should not escape notice that fat shaming disproportionately targets women. Society has created certain expectations about the 'ideal woman,' which are very unrealistic, but to which women, nonetheless, are held accountable. Nowhere is this seen more than in Hollywood. If you're a woman and overweight, the roles are few and far between and forget about ever being considered for a romantic lead. Yet overweight men seem to have little problem getting roles or romantic lead roles, for example, John Travolta, Jack Nicholson, Kevin James, etc. (often with women significantly younger than them--Hollywood is also biased against older women, but that's another subject). There are exceptions, if you want an older frumpy woman, Kathy Bates the go to woman; if you want an overweight but manic younger woman, then the choice is what's her name McCarthy.

All that said, the extent of obesity in this country is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed, and this means talking about why obesity is a problem. You can do it without shaming someone directly, but if someone who's truly fat (and not the common middle aged spread nearly all of us experience) feels shame at such messages, than that's a them problem.

Personally, I find obese women incredibly unattractive. I don't blame women if they feel the same way about obese men. At the same time, I'm not Charles Atlas, although I do watch what I eat and exercise regularly, so I feel like I have realistic expectations. If women or men chose to be obese, or allow it to happen, or don't do anything about it, or live a lifestyle that promotes it, then they can't expect everyone to find them attractive or desirable. Nor does it mean, however, that we have to be mean spirited about it. Feel free to get grossed out, but best to do it quietly.
 
What happens when your wife puts on 100 lbs after ten years of marriage? Cool to just be silent and grossed out?
 
You're thinking too small scale-- there's lazy people all over the world. So, why is it that only recently have lazy people started getting fat? And why is this phenomenon so varied from country to country? Are America's 'lazy' lazier than Italy's "lazy"?


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I would guess it has something to do with income, availability to food, availability to different types of food, lifestyle, higher prevalence of sedentary work (non-physical) work, etc.
 
Ok so maybe shaming is not the answer. But I hate when people trying to sell obesity as beautiful just because person feels that way. I hate messages to teenagers telling them that don't worry about your weight - you are beautiful the way you are. That is plain wrong in my opinion.

You're wrong-- there is a difference between diagnosable obesity, and our society's fantasizing over women maintaining a slim figure that we've constructed as one that represents good health.

Good question. I wonder if anybody ever compared drive through numbers in N.America and other countries. Simple example - last week I stopped by Tim Hortons to get coffee - about 10 cars idling in drive through wasting gas and time, polluting environment and being to lazy to move a muscle. I came inside, not a single person. Got my coffee, chatted with nice girl and went back to my car. I made few more extra steps than those 10 people waiting in drive through - small thing but it adds up during the day when it comes to burning calories. Now granted maybe some of them had their reasons, maybe there was a handicapped person or somebody with sprained ankle, but you get my point.


Cool anecdote, but it doesn't answer my question. Are the lazys in Germany less lazy than the ones in America? If not, why are there more obese Americans than any other nation?
 
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