DL out… kinda?

[Ineptimusprime]

If TJ is referencing DL as “checked out,” then this **** must be really bad.

Tony’s recent article said that management didn’t do exit interviews with the players as they normally do. Tony’s article left the impression that DL checked out as soon as the offseason started.

 

[Jingled]

It sounds like DL was kinda not there the last few months... Tony used the words "checked out".... Locke talking about how this season was a lot of "fatigue".

So is JZ responsible for the Matt Thomas deal? if so I prefer Ainge.

Tony actually said he had "checked out"?

 

[kabenac]

Ainge strikes me as a piece of crap person who burns bridges. I don't know much about Battier but here's a good article - no doubt D-Wade is pulling for him: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article252204648.html

 

[infection]

Tony actually said he had "checked out"?

So the article says "Lindsey became less engaged as the days progressed, according to sources." It sounds like this is since we got bounced, and I can't find anything to suggest it was before the end of the playoffs. I'm guessing he must have known this was coming.

 

[infection]

Also it's probably hard doing exit interviews this year vs. other years because you could always throw it back on the players of what they need to do to improve. In this case they must have some level of self-awareness to know that the vast majority of this is a FO/coaching failure.

 

[Coach Ellis]

So the article says "Lindsey became less engaged as the days progressed, according to sources." It sounds like this is since we got bounced, and I can't find anything to suggest it was before the end of the playoffs. I'm guessing he must have known this was coming.

I’m sure the Elijah Millsap thing played a part in it as well. There’s no doubt in my mind that DL knew it was Championship or bust for this squad, and they got busted in about the worst way possible.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So the article says "Lindsey became less engaged as the days progressed, according to sources." It sounds like this is since we got bounced, and I can't find anything to suggest it was before the end of the playoffs. I'm guessing he must have known this was coming.

I may have read it wrong... I combined that with Locke talking about how hard this season was and fatigue (he was talking front office not on court) and just kinda sounds like DL was waiting for the clock to run out.

 

[jom2003]

No to Ainge in anything other than a consultant role. He took advantage of Brooklyn and then failed to do anything with an absolute crap ton of assets. I don’t want him to have too much juice in the organization.

It was more on Nets then GM Billy King's legendary stupidity than on Ainge's intelligence. Portland also got a lottery pick from Billy King that later turned into Dame Lillard for half season rental of Gerald Wallace. Made me feel that we should've gotten even more in that DWill deal to the Nets in 2011.

 

[Jingled]

So the article says "Lindsey became less engaged as the days progressed, according to sources." It sounds like this is since we got bounced, and I can't find anything to suggest it was before the end of the playoffs. I'm guessing he must have known this was coming.

That makes more sense.

 

[Coach Ellis]

It was more on Nets then GM Billy King's legendary stupidity than on Ainge's intelligence. Portland also got a lottery pick from Billy King that later turned into Dame Lillard for half season rental of Gerald Wallace. Made me feel that we should've gotten even more in that DWill deal to the Nets in 2011.

I agree. Feel like Ainge is mostly smoke and mirrors, who was in the right place at the right time. Hate to see how he’d tear it down to build it back up and screw it up like he did in Boston.

 

[jom2003]

Battier was known as a smart player, was part of championship team, and also represents the exact type of player we need to add to this team (so maybe he would have a good eye for that)?

I'm not sure how long he has been part of the Heat front office, but they recently found and developed Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn in to rotation pieces.

Good point. Plus he himself is the exact player that the Jazz is desperately missing on the roster for years. So he knew what we need and will at least try taking actions to get us one.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It was more on Nets then GM Billy King's legendary stupidity than on Ainge's intelligence. Portland also got a lottery pick from Billy King that later turned into Dame Lillard for half season rental of Gerald Wallace. Made me feel that we should've gotten even more in that DWill deal to the Nets in 2011.

Ainge's drafting record late first has been spotty/bad... he does deserve credit for Tatum over Fultz (and getting a good pick for his trouble). Fultz was regarded as the consensus #1 in that draft.

The Brown selection was also very good... That was not a no-brainer pick.

The Kyrie trade was kind of a heist... it turns out that Irving was not a guy you should depend on... but he did well there.

I see the general idea behind most of Ainge's moves. Trying to make sense of the current front office moves has been tough the last year. I'm cool with failure if the idea or process behind it was sound. GM's don't hit on every pick... Massai reached for Bruno Caboculo for hell's sakes. I just need it to make some sense... I hated the Udoka pick because I had seen that movie before. If we were going to sign a minimum vet FA center and hope Udoka was ready this year... then fine. I knew we'd pay for a better backup and the Favs smoke was already in the air. Even then I guess I'd be fine with those moves if we had solved the perimeter defensive needs we had... we didn't really even try. Just really weird and long term it really hurt our planning. Terrible asset management... and these were the easier things to handle imo.