Does Lauri Get Traded?

[Elizah Huge]

In relation to my deal, you could get a max of one additional unprotected pick (either 26 or 27) and then the swaps as HH described.

So basically just taking two unprotected firsts off the table?

 

[KqWIN]

Lol... you have to win a game tomorrow... pick Deni or JK. Deni is a better player and on a deal his agent should be fired for. He is a better fit on every NBA roster... but I get it he doesn't have loud fun plays. His value is not definitely higher. JK is in the Josh Giddy realm of value.

I don't know what is or isn't better than the Bridges package and I don't disagree... but homers gonna homer and fans want infinity picks because they actually just don't want to trade their favorite player.

Like I said, don’t care to flesh this out because the point is the same either way….but personally I do not think about “if you had to win a game tomorrow” when talking about 21 year old developing players. For players like Kuminga, their value is in their potential. You wouldn’t talk about how a pick swap can help you win a game tomorrow.

 

[KqWIN]

So basically just taking two unprotected firsts off the table?

No just one unprotected first. They can only trade a max of 3 unprotected firsts and the other two were already in my deal. My thought process, start with the best assets and work from there. To me the best assets are 31 unprotected, 29 unprotected, and Kuminga.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Like I said, don’t care to flesh this out because the point is the same either way….but personally I do not think about “if you had to win a game tomorrow” when talking about 21 year old players. Players like Kuminga, their value is in their potential. You wouldn’t talk about how a pick swap, can help you win a game tomorrow.

Simply trying to point out that he is a clearly better player (like at damn near everything) and like 1.5 years older so not some massive age difference... and his contract situation is amazing.. and his game fits so many rosters better than JK... and he hasn't had the benefit of operating with Steph's spacing or Dray's passing... he's been playing with Kuz and Poole for hells sake.

So pointing to their trade value as equivalent is wild miscalculation imo... you can say potential but why does Kuminga have more potential when Avdija is the clearly the better player now.

 

[mhindy]

No just one unprotected first. They can only trade a max of 3 unprotected firsts and the other two were already in my deal. My thought process, start with the best assets and work from there. To me the best assets are 31 unprotected, 29 unprotected, and Kuminga.

I think the picks in even years plus swaps in odd creates much more total value, but obviously nitpicking.

 

[idiot]

Prediction time assuming a trade happens:

The return for Lauri will be ______________.

I'll go with "a touch disappointing,"

 

[Shad]

Please, if he's going to be traded, be to the Rockets and just fleece the hell out of them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think the picks in even years plus swaps in odd creates much more total value, but obviously nitpicking.

Its not nitpicking. Having a swap with two other teams that are both way better than us is WAY more valuable. You just want full control of any upside their draft offers. I would be disappointed if we didn't do it that way and get all the picks. I don't care about JK or Moody that much. I think you should get 1 of them though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Prediction time assuming a trade happens:

The return for Lauri will be ______________.

I'll go with "a touch disappointing,"

"amazing once the gains of tanking are factored in"

 

[mhindy]

Its not nitpicking. Having a swap with two other teams that are both way better than us is WAY more valuable. You just want full control of any upside their draft offers. I would be disappointed if we didn't do it that way and get all the picks. I don't care about JK or Moody that much. I think you should get 1 of them though.

I don't really care about either of them. We have seven young players already, just want best chance at drafting top 3 down the road.

 

[KqWIN]

Simply trying to point out that he is a clearly better player (like at damn near everything) and like 1.5 years older so not some massive age difference... and his contract situation is amazing.. and his game fits so many rosters better than JK... and he hasn't had the benefit of operating with Steph's spacing or Dray's passing... he's been playing with Kuz and Poole for hells sake.

So pointing to their trade value as equivalent is wild miscalculation imo... you can say potential but why does Kuminga have more potential when Avdija is the clearly the better player now.

Avdija is not clearly a better player. Kuminga was great last season on winning team. His EPM, BPM, and LEBRON were all higher. His base stats were better. Beyond that, Kuminga is a player that demonstrates some star qualities and things that cannot be taught. The conversation around him is the extent to which GSW is limiting him and there’s a reason for that. He’s already been a good player but can be more in an expanded role.

The idea that Avidja is just significantly easier to fit rests on his ability to shoot. Neither is the most inspiring shooter with both taking low volume of 3’s. Avdija did shoot better last season, but it’s not like 37% of 3 attempts a game is incredible and over the past two seasons combined (and their careers) Kuminga shoots a higher percentage.

 

[mhindy]

I don't really care about either of them. We have seven young players already, just want best chance at drafting top 3 down the road.

I guess I only care in that removing either of them depletes GS future talent base which probably helps the picks a bit.