OK. Do you think it will beat/equal/be short of the Mikal return (since that's the obvious comparison that will be made in any immediate aftermath)?The expectation from some here is as if we’re trading Luka. We’re not getting that.
Without taking Wiggins they’d have to give us everything. Adding him in they don’t have enough to make it work.I think GSW would try hard to go the other direction and dump Wiggins onto us while taking no future salary back. They could be set up to have some cap space the following season if they are able to to dump Wiggins. It wouldn't be max, but it would be something. Dumping Wiggins would have to cost a significant amount IMO.
RudyNow wolves interested in LM what the hell can they offer us at all they have no 1st round draft picks
OK. Do you think it will beat/equal/be short of the Mikal return (since that's the obvious comparison that will be made in any immediate aftermath)?
Without taking Wiggins they’d have to give us everything. Adding him in they don’t have enough to make it work.
Basically taking out an extra first and adding in two pick swaps. Doesn’t seem that outlandish. Seems pretty equal.Eh, I think that's extremely optimistic. If they gave us everything (and got WAS to play ball), they could exceed the Bridges package quite a bit. I know the Jazz have the option of R+E Lauri, but is that a better path than turning down an offer that exceeds Bridges by a decent amount?
Lol... this is flat out not true but whatevs.To each their own. I don’t think Deni is necessarily a better defender or a more promising shooter. Overall, numbers clearly point to Kuminga as a better player right now. Numbers dont mean everything, but I still don’t find a case for Avdija being “certainly better”.
Hey you do you... wouldn't be the first time you missed on player trade value.And again, it’s not all about who will win you a game tomorrow. Being a star player typically means being a higher usage scorer. Kuminga is closer to that and of that mold. He’s proven himself in a smaller role and has shown plenty of potential to do more.
I truly do not care to discuss this anymore because this was never the point. It’s clear you don’t like Kuminga and obviously there’s no changing that. A better way to solve this would be to ask neutral parties. If you care enough to do that, go for it. I do not. If I’m wrong and everyone things Avdija is clearly a better asset than Kuminga, I’ll accept it.
Basically taking out an extra first and adding in two pick swaps. Doesn’t seem that outlandish. Seems pretty equal.
I don’t think we get every pick + Kuminga + Moody. I think it’s every pick + Moody. We’d likely have to take less picks with Kuminga instead.Picks alone, the compensation is fairly close. I don’t want to get into a big argument about the value of GSW vs NYK. NYK would be in second apron hell, but the GSW would also go past Curry and Green’s retirement.
You can almost get the same exact picks. Can’t get NYK or MIL 25, but those are the worst picks and you could get more swaps. NYK did not trade every swap possible and UTA has this super swap potential with CLE or MIN picks.
The only other part of the trade would be the matching salary. So we’re talking about Kuminga and Moody vs Boian. Pretty sizable difference there IMO.