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Red said:
Yeah, that's all well and fine. If you can't see the truth in Traub's article describing what America has become, well, you don't have eyes to see. I'm just glad that I do....

I wish it were otherwise then what Traub nails so well and so eloquently, but I am grateful that I do have eyes to see.
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That Traub article is pretty damn good. I hear people saying they don't give a damn about the future as long as you line their pockets right now, and that we'll cross that debt bridge when it comes. And it's all soaked up in some bull **** cognitive dissonance reasoning about not trusting politicians with "their" money so give as much of it to them today as you can, Mr. Trump. Great reasoning there.

The simple word decadence describes our rich, entitled society to a T. There has never been a better time to be alive yet all I hear is people bitching and moaning about how rough life is. Keep up this decadence nonsense of petty tax cuts for the middle class and 50% tax breaks to corporations at a time of prosperity when you should be paying down debt or saving for future troubles... that's the kind of thing that doesn't end well.

Maybe it's time for me to build a bomb shelter.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Unless there were a true rift in the military there will never be a successful uprising of the citizenry of the US. Just simply cannot happen. The US military is too strong. It would be squashed so fast. As stoked pointed out, the national guard would be plenty to quell anything even remotely resembling a war.
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the us military is so strong it went into Vietnam and squashed the guerrilla warfare Vietcong in 48 hours.

OOH wait!
 
franklin said:
That Traub article is pretty damn good. I hear people saying they don't give a damn about the future as long as you line their pockets right now, and that we'll cross that debt bridge when it comes. And it's all soaked up in some bull **** cognitive dissonance reasoning about not trusting politicians with "their" money so give as much of it to them today as you can, Mr. Trump. Great reasoning there.

The simple word decadence describes our rich, entitled society to a T. There has never been a better time to be alive yet all I hear is people bitching and moaning about how rough life is. Keep up this decadence nonsense of petty tax cuts for the middle class and 50% tax breaks to corporations at a time of prosperity when you should be paying down debt or saving for future troubles... that's the kind of thing that doesn't end well.

Maybe it's time for me to build a bomb shelter.
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It's just annoying to have the libs start up now about decadence. Fun stuff about Rome in some history books. And hey, thought you were an end-stage advocate of spending our way outta trouble. Keynesian with no limits, no sense of propriety.

We've got bitcoin now, too. lottza faux currency with lottza cred.

Brother Brigham really hit on something issuing bishop storehouse scrip. People put faith in it, bought tools, went to work, and brought back 10% in goods produced. given a monetary velocity of about a hundred, the storehouse had more stuff than there was scrip out in circ. well, until the miners and the brothels came to town. Lottza misspent labor poking holes in the hills. bad money drove out the good.... gold drove out the faithful work on real essentials.

LaRouche's talk about govt. creds to be issued for infrastructure construction..... power plants (nuke), canals (freight channels and irrig.), bridges to Asia over the Bering( or under, as in tunnels for MagLev freighters). and aggressive space projects. Lessee..... iffn the gov pays you $1 for something you produce, say a pack of nails, and you spend it, earning a nickel, and thirty more ordinary folks pass that buck at some profit, there's $1.50 in gross taxable income, or say 0.50 in tax revenue. But that dollar keeps on bouncing. Even after paying taxes the first year, there's still half a buck out there. Looking at it as years go by, on those round trends, the taxpayer is out less than a nickel for whatever the gov. spends....

Problem is, private spending is better spending, and we will prosper more the less the govt. ever does or spends. Simple fact. people know what they need or want. govt knows nothing. cares less.

But still, highways, energy, water do increase human productivity. Lots more than welfare spent in WalMart.
 
I know he got canned, but he's also been working to get pro-Trump candidates into GOP primaries. The Moore debacle did not help his already less then stellar reputation. But this latest surprises me nonetheless. I don't know, maybe he's rewriting narratives to cover his own butt....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

"Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaitedpolitical books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him

Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language......

......The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”
 
Red said:
I know he got canned, but he's also been working to get pro-Trump candidates into GOP primaries. The Moore debacle did not help his already less then stellar reputation. But this latest surprises me nonetheless. I don't know, maybe he's rewriting narratives to cover his own butt....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

"Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaitedpolitical books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him

Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language......

......The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”
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This is fun!

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/president-donald-trump-steve-bannon/index.html

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party," Trump said in the statement.
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Bulletproof said:
@babe , I know it is upsetting when mommy and daddy fight, but remember, they both still love you very very much.
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Trump, Bannon, nor their friends know who I am. I'm the guy behind the headlights people pass in the night. There are millions of people like me..... sick of the mainstream media, sick of the public schools, sick of "progressives" hailing the new dawn of feudalism, statism, fascism, and state-mandated norms of manners, morals, thoughts and words.

Anyone who can articulate the mood of the masses will have a huge wave to ride, if he can.

Bannon will capitalize on whatever there is in the news, but he will turn it into the reason you can't believe the news.
 
babe said:
It's just annoying to have the libs start up now about decadence.
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Just as annoying as the conservatives doing the exact same thing when the dems were in power. The only difference to the populace in general is their upbringing and world view. I tend to get way more annoyed by liberal whining than I do the anarchist right wingers. I can at least respect someone who I disagree with but who has the self respect of self reliance. So their obnoxious asses don't annoy me to the same degree that they would a more left-leaning moderate.

babe said:
Fun stuff about Rome in some history books. And hey, thought you were an end-stage advocate of spending our way outta trouble. Keynesian with no limits, no sense of propriety.
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You clearly don't understand Keynesian economic theory (or whatever the modern version is termed), or my stance on counter cyclical policy. I would think that you, of all people, would support paying down our massive government debt in a time of full employment, record corporate profits, and possible re-inflation of the last property bubble. Now is the time to save, not spend like mad men. That's what Keynes taught, not whatever rantings you've listened to and now use as some expletive like people do with "commie" and "nazi".

babe said:
Problem is, private spending is better spending, and we will prosper more the less the govt. ever does or spends. Simple opinion.
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FIFY. You are welcome to your opinion. You do not understand simple economics and how big a role the US government deficit spending has played in your very own prosperity. People of your opinion want to cut off their nose to spite their face. Is it wasteful spending a lot of the time? That's measurable. What is the add on effect? What is the increase in velocity of money? How much does Babe and other farmers and ranchers benefit from food stamps and all the various agricultural welfare programs? How much does the public benefit from USDA regulations that cost money in the form of jobs? What is the add-on effect of to the economy of a USDA beef inspector's salary, or that of the lab workers, or that of the very expensive sample testing equipment?

"people know what they need or want. govt knows nothing. cares less." No, babe, your ideology blinds you from rational use of government for the benefit of the people. If you want what you and I have preached about for several years - clean water projects, infrastructure, etc. - then making these ill-minded claims do nothing but block your own cause.
 
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