Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

[DutchJazzer]

i guess i better stop this discusion cus i'm offending people. and i seem to be misunderstood. guessing there is a failure to communicate

on a side note:
now i have no data on iq of fighter pilots and or tank drivers.

we are just speculating here.

would like some stats on that just curious.

i would put money that it would be somewhere avg will be somewhere around 110-120 or maybe 115-125

 

[DutchJazzer]

Not that dutch deserves anymore response to his baseless stereotype that gay people are weak minded, but here are some interesting numbers and statements.

i dont hate you. hope you forgive me. from now one i will hold my opinion on this subject to myself. did not mean to offend you. i did and therefor i am sorry.

 

[Get Down]

It's a capital G, just so you know.
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

you should thank whatever god you think set you on the path of existence that anyone here is genuinely reaching out to you at all when you post things like this:

It's a start in that direction. Multiply that same garbage millions of times, yes I believe it not only does not help our Society, but it hurts. Obviously you dont think so.... but that's my take.

before lecturing us about "life and science"

you aren't looking for a conversation, you aren't looking to learn anything. you've a pitiable set of cliches for your core values and you're desperately trying to justify basing your life on a set of hallmark cards that don't hold up to the scrutiny of reality. this is your life, and you are invested. so you take to debating semantics on a utah jazz message board instead of seeking out more honed resources that would tear down every tower of rationalization you've ever built, every well-tread argument that's been grunted out by every drooling ogre over the past few centuries because it's hard to think and it's hard to realize that you've been lied to your entire ****ing life sooooo. perpetuate the illusion and throw the dictionary at anyone who bests you logically

you are blind and dishonest and there's nothing i want more than to tear down the system of ignorance that ***** out lost causes like you

 

[Jazzfan_Bayamon 2]

you should thank whatever god you think set you on the path of existence that anyone here is genuinely reaching out to you at all when you post things like this:



before lecturing us about "life and science"

you aren't looking for a conversation, you aren't looking to learn anything. you've a pitiable set of cliches for your core values and you're desperately trying to justify basing your life on a set of hallmark cards that don't hold up to the scrutiny of reality. this is your life, and you are invested. so you take to debating semantics on a utah jazz message board instead of seeking out more honed resources that would tear down every tower of rationalization you've ever built, every well-tread argument that's been grunted out by every drooling ogre over the past few centuries because it's hard to think and it's hard to realize that you've been lied to your entire ****ing life sooooo. perpetuate the illusion and throw the dictionary at anyone who bests you logically

you are blind and dishonest and there's nothing i want more than to tear down the system of ignorance that ***** out lost causes like you

Very tolerant of you there. Bravo.

 

[billyshelby]

I can't bother to read this thread. Can someone give me a boxscore? Let me guess: Beantown still hates gay people, Marcus and Clutch are fighting the PC backlash, One Brow is dissecting posts line by line (and probably winning since we seem to have the same liberal views on these issues), Kicky found a legal angle, Trout's running 50/50 on good jokes to bad, Archie has posted few rimshots, KEK and Marty have chimed in with their usual sound opinions without being interested in getting too involved, Bordy/roseparkjazzfan has picked his moments well, Katie is strident (not criticizing exactly), and aint is delightfully absent. What did I miss?

 

[DutchJazzer]

I can't bother to read this thread. Can someone give me a boxscore? Let me guess: Beantown still hates gay people, Marcus and Clutch are fighting the PC backlash, One Brow is dissecting posts line by line (and probably winning since we seem to have the same liberal views on these issues), Kicky found a legal angle, Trout's running 50/50 on good jokes to bad, Archie has posted few rimshots, KEK and Marty have chimed in with their usual sound opinions without being interested in getting too involved, Bordy/roseparkjazzfan has picked his moments well, Katie is strident (not criticizing exactly), and aint is delightfully absent. What did I miss?

the dutchjazzer vs the gay world debate

lol

 

[KatieMCR]

I can't bother to read this thread. Can someone give me a boxscore? Let me guess: Beantown still hates gay people, Marcus and Clutch are fighting the PC backlash, One Brow is dissecting posts line by line (and probably winning since we seem to have the same liberal views on these issues), Kicky found a legal angle, Trout's running 50/50 on good jokes to bad, Archie has posted few rimshots, KEK and Marty have chimed in with their usual sound opinions without being interested in getting too involved, Bordy/roseparkjazzfan has picked his moments well, Katie is strident (not criticizing exactly), and aint is delightfully absent. What did I miss?

Pretty close. Beantown has been MIA in this thread though.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Gay or straight, a man is a man and sexual dimorphism still applies.

Unless you're a dude that wants to golf against chicks cuz you couldn't hack it with the men, right?

 

[Get Down]

Very tolerant of you there. Bravo.

i am being 100% honest that i made these types of bogus equation arguments in 5th grade. i wrote an essay titled "The White Plight" and it was about reverse racism and "who are the real bigots here???" 5th grade. jazzfanz is a bigoted 5th grader

 

[KatieMCR]

Pretty close. Beantown has been MIA in this thread though.

I was wrong. Beantown did post. I just didn't notice, since I have him on ignore. So no clue what he said.

 

[chemdude1232]

I was wrong. Beantown did post. I just didn't notice, since I have him on ignore. So no clue what he said.

Beantown said

So gays cant be water boarded in the military now?

.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This is called conversation. It is usually what people do when they at least want to understand the other person's point of view. It does not work well when one, or both of those people are angry. Why are you so angry and hung up on this thread when it does not affect you? And another thing... how do you know it does not affect me? You don't even know me and you are assuming this in regards to me and others.

This is a two way street here. I don't assume that all people who don't support my faith or religion are hating on me. Try it, it helps take the edge off the nerves.

By the way, Katie would not bring it up, if Katie did not want a conversation on the topic. Katie really has not been too riled up from this thread, so others might want to follow her show of calm here.

You're right about Katie. This is one of the worst places you could come to have a reasonable, civil discussion of LGBT issues. I mean, come on, a SPORTS-themed website based in a region that is one of the reddest and whose primary religion is one of the most significant anti-homosexual religions today? That's what this is, and the views on this site are reflective of that.

However, I don't particularly care how kooky a person's religion is as long as the tenets it puts forth universally engender respect for others. I am guilty of not always following that basic tenet myself but I will admit to that and I think there's also something to be said about reacting to disrespect in kind.

I all but know the mere of existence of homosexuality does not negatively affect you except perhaps that you view it as some pestilence that it's not. Or you're annoyed. Gay marriage doesn't de-value or nullify your or anyone else's marriage. Unless you want to put forth something to show how it legitimately and negatively impacts your life, I'm going to (continue) to call your bluff. You own the burden of proof in this discussion.

I really don't care what the root is of your LGBT views are. I'm telling you calmly and as civil as I can that I find your views on the matter willfully ignorant, condescending, and offensive.

My initial point stands. Treating or viewing certain people like they're the disease of society isn't exactly what I would call respectful or kind. Even though I'm sure you're perfectly agreeable face-to-face and an otherwise nice and cool person.