don't believe the hype - only Jabari parker is the sure thing
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i'm nobody's agent. i just love my boy trey. i went to Michigan and now i live in slc. so i mean it's like dream come true for me. lol
this whole tank thing really gets on my nerves. even if we have most ping pong there is no guarantee that we will end up 2nd. and when i look at #2 to #10 - all have potential to be great. i'll be happy with marcus smart at 4th. i will fine with gordon at 9th. i'll be happy with embiid at 6th. if randle falls at 5th i'll be fine too. bottom line i think no matter what happens we will draft a guy with major potential.
i'm secretly hoping for wiggins to go crazyl in march and beats out jabari. or randle to help kentucky to win it all. and maybe jabari gets hurt or struggle and falls to our lap at 3rd overall pick. could he fall to 4th? maybe if another guy steps up and goes crazy in march.
it's too early to tell, but i think only Jabari is the sure fire franchise changer. and IMO jabari fits the best. Imagine the support he will get from jazz fans.
jeff green highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWPuObf4XBI&feature=player_embedded
jeff green is also a great athlete just like wiggins. easily top 10 in game dunker. quick first step, great length(probably 1/2 inch taller than wiggins), shown he can be a good defender, and respectable 38 vert
but can we call jeff green an elite athlete like bron?
in order for me to put wiggins as once in a generation type athlete, he needs to show me more. give me at least 44 inch max vert at 215lb at predraft. then i'll move him up the ladder.
seattlejazzfan
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You call those stats, I call it production. He's out there actually scoring points, actually getting rebounds, actually making 52% of his shots, actually getting to the FT line 9 times a game. Allow me to clue you in on something, if what you see while you are "carefully watching the games" is not consistent with what he is actually producing on the court, you may need to come back to reality.
l Abach l
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I'd rather tank hard for an Elton Brand than half-*** tank for a Jeff Green or OJ Mayo. Wouldn't you?
spycam1
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Ever heard of fallacy by analogy?
And yes, Wiggins has a 44+ inch max vert. At the LeBron James Skills Academy this summer his vertical was literally off the charts (the device couldn't measure how high he was jumping).
Here's the article: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1697821-star-nba-prospect-andrew-wiggins-can-jump-really-high
i'll believe it when he can do that at the predraft measurement. glen robinson jr. also needed something more than 12ft 3inch measuring stick. i expect grob jr to be around 40 inch max vert.
oh by the way, in the history of NBA predraft highest max vert is 46 inch by 6ft 4 1/2 dj stephens
vince carter was 43.
nate robinson was 43.5.
if wiggins can jump 44, then i'll be highly impressed. so far i haven't seen that kinda leaping ability from him. if he is indeed a legit 6ft 8 then his head has to be routinely near the rim every time he attempts a dunk in a clean lane. because all he needs to do is jump 38 1/2 inch to hit the rim with his head(i'm assuming his shoe to be 1 1/2 inch lift).
spycam1
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i'll believe it when he can do that at the predraft measurement. glen robinson jr. also needed something more than 12ft 3inch measuring stick. i expect grob jr to be around 40 inch max vert.
oh by the way, in the history of NBA predraft highest max vert is 46 inch by 6ft 4 1/2 dj stephens
vince carter was 43.
nate robinson was 43.5.
if wiggins can jump 44, then i'll be highly impressed. so far i haven't seen that kinda leaping ability from him. if he is indeed a legit 6ft 8 then his head has to be routinely above the rim every time he attempts a dunk in a clean lane. because all he needs to do is jump 38 1/2 inch to hit the rim with his head(i'm assuming his shoe to be 1 1/2 inch lift).
Oh my ****ing god. They. Measured. His. Vertical. What does it matter if it was at the draft combine or at a circus?
/trampolines
spycam1
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i'll believe it when he can do that at the predraft measurement. glen robinson jr. also needed something more than 12ft 3inch measuring stick. i expect grob jr to be around 40 inch max vert.
oh by the way, in the history of NBA predraft highest max vert is 46 inch by 6ft 4 1/2 dj stephens
vince carter was 43.
nate robinson was 43.5.
if wiggins can jump 44, then i'll be highly impressed. so far i haven't seen that kinda leaping ability from him. if he is indeed a legit 6ft 8 then his head has to be routinely near the rim every time he attempts a dunk in a clean lane. because all he needs to do is jump 38 1/2 inch to hit the rim with his head(i'm assuming his shoe to be 1 1/2 inch lift).
Then let me show you.
If those gifs prove he's the BEST athlete to ever play basketball, then Jeremy Evans must be in contention as well! There's more to athleticism than jumping high. He's not that fast in transition. He's not very strong. I'd say he's a once in a draft athlete...
It's okay. Not everyone can scout talent. I'm serious.
do you believe in santa too? in NFL combine, many supposedly legit 4.3 guy end up running much lower. don't believe everything people say. timmy hardaway jr in the nba is listed at 6ft 6. many fans think he is 6ft 6. announcers say he is 6ft 6. guess what? he was measured at 6ft 4 1/2 barefoot.
do your own research and draw your own conclusion because as far as i'm concerned only legitimate numbers are done during the predraft measurement.
no doubt wiggins is a great athlete. but him being once in a generate athlete? i don't know man. IMO once in a generation athletes are noticeably different from the tape.
the way MJ did that patented triple pump between 3 defenders? that was special.
the way shaq moved at 300lb for magic and then 330lb when he was in LA? that was something special.
the way bron ran the floor as a rookie carrying 240lb weight was something special.
show me special. make my jaw drop. then i'll pimp him to be an elite athlete. if he can't do that by now then i suspect he won't do that anytime soon.
spycam1
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The conversation at hand is purely about whether or not Wiggins has a high vertical leap. I provided quantified evidence that he does, and he responded saying that he hasn't seen it, so I showed him. Pretty simple.