Elijah Millsap: Lindsey in exit interview: “if u say one more word, I’ll cut your Black *** and send you back to Louisiana”.

[Elizah Huge]

Whats weird is that is seems out of character from DL.

But why would Elijah make it up? Maybe DL did say it, but they were having a heated convo. Maybe he made that mistake in the heat of the moment.
I do applaud for Elijah stating that he doesn't think DL is racist. That does help.

Look at the few posts ahead he said he feels like the Jazz blackballed him to the rest of the league. More than enough to be a motive to lie I think. Not saying he is or isn’t but the motive is definitely there.

 

[sip]

Whats weird is that is seems out of character from DL.

But why would Elijah make it up? Maybe DL did say it, but they were having a heated convo. Maybe he made that mistake in the heat of the moment.
I do applaud for Elijah stating that he doesn't think DL is racist. That does help.

You applaud him for stating that he doesn't think DL is racist yet that is exactly what he implies? Also you can clearly tell from the article that Millsap has an irrational level of confidence in himself if he thinks the jazz had anything to do with him not getting another shot in the league. The guy is clearly delusional when it comes to his actual level of play.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Off main topic but to me I always though Elijah got a pretty good opportunity due to Paul and the respect the Jazz had for him. I remember even thinking back then that he probably wouldn't make any other team.

Sad I have to say this but that's not me hating on him, that's me stating my honest opinion that I had even back in the day.

 

[LogGrad98]

Wrong thread

 

[sip]

I may have to take back that he could have continued his career overseas. Here are his stats overseas.

Elijah Millsap International Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

Elijah Millsap - Career stats, game logs, leaderboard appearances, awards, and achievements for international club and tournament play

www.basketball-reference.com

Even in the gleague his shooting percentages were terrible after the jazz let him go.

Elijah Millsap G-League Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

G-League statistics and information for Elijah Millsap

www.basketball-reference.com

 

[framer]

He sounds exactly like that 38 year old dude playing church ball who will tell you he would have played College ball if not for the "politics" on his high school team.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Hopefully they release the notes because I'm curious as to why DL would threaten to cut him in the first place.

 

[sip]

Hopefully they release the notes because I'm curious as to why DL would threaten to cut him in the first place.

I'm really interested to see if from the notes you can get an idea of the intensity of the meeting because I can now understand how it could get heated. You have a player with the ego of a star and the game of a borderline nba player and coaches that probably gave the critique that you would expect for a borderline nba player. Based on speaking with Rich Cho who used to be the gm of the hornets and blazers he said the exit interviews for minimum contract guys were always management and coaches giving a breakdown of the guys game and what they needed to focus on in the offseason. Not once did it ever get heated with a player.

 

[mongoose01]

It would be shining a light on power dynamics and use of racially charged language in the workplace. It's not just for him, but for any POC who might have experienced a similar interaction with person who has power over their livelihood. I see why he went public. Going private wouldn't help anything. The fact that you are asking that question tells me you don't have the ability to emphasize.

If by emphasize you mean empathize I’m perfectly capable. If I’m trying to put myself in his shoes (empathize) and someone said something totally out of character of which I have not experienced before or since at that place of work. I’m not sure I would think it was some sort of major issue. I’d probably give it some time (probably 5 years and 11.5 months short of six years) to ask the guy “hey, when you said that to me, it seemed abrasive and out of character, and it bothers me. Can you tell me what that was about?”


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[KqWIN]

While I do agree with you that this might have been a better look in some senses ("let's hear each other out privately as reasonable men"), I think you're overlooking the power dynamics that are (still) at play.

To take an extreme example (that is clearly not exactly parallel, but I hope gives a sense of something of the possible issues at stake), imagine that the charge was that a boss (or former boss) raped an employee. If the boss was confronted by a reporter about the accusation and then said something like, "I don't agree, but I'm going to reach out to the accuser and try to make things right," there would be all kinds of red flags raised about whether the boss was using his power to try to minimize the issue or even use the power differential he still possessed to make the accusation go away or even punish or otherwise regain power over the accuser in some way.

Now racial power dynamics don't play out exactly the same as sexual power dynamics, but I think there are enough parallels in this instance that Lindsey wouldn't necessarily have been better served to have gone the "let me try to make things right with Elijah privately" route. (In fact, I just saw a tweet from Millsap subsequent to his initial statement about the exit interview to the effect that he's less interested in "making things right" than speaking the truth with integrity.)

Whether Millsap intended things to play out like they have (and he might have, though sometimes once actions are taken, they lead in not-fully-anticipated directions), I think given the way the social climate and news media work these days, once the accusation went public it would have been hard for Lindsey and Millsap to just reach out to each other as more or less "equals." Maybe somewhere down the line, they might be able to do so, but probably not at first.

You can deny without dismissing concerns. It's really not difficult at all. It is as easy as saying "I did not say that, but I'm willing to hear Elijah's side of the story". It's not about public versus private. It's about giving concern for these issues.

I totally disagree with the notion that you shouldn't reach out to Elijah because it may look like you are using your power to silence him anyways. Imagine being Elijah, how patronizing is that? Like, it's better for him to just be called a liar because the act of hearing him out might raise red flags about him being silenced?

Elijah is an equal. You should not treat him as less than equal because of the fear that it make him look less than equal. Seems like a really a backwards idea that you're presenting.

 

[Getting Traded]

I thought I posted this before but apparently I forgot to finish it.

Basically, it's this: If someone said to someone who is white, I'm going to send your white *** back to Louisiana, no one would say anything about it. Can anyone else see that the karma is not balanced here? Why are they censoring the word aass -- ???

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

"Obviously, I know my truth," Millsap said in an interview with The Associated Press.

This, along with his belief that the Jazz blackballed him are starting to make me feel like this is all made up. Anytime someone says "my truth" instead of "the truth", I become very skeptical. There is no Millsap truth and there is no Dennis Lindsey truth. There is just the truth. If you have to clarify that it is "your truth", you are admitting that there are potential differences between your truth and reality. Very questionable.