Epstein is in Trouble

[candrew]

Lol. Check off another box on Trump's wannabe "Third World Dictator" checklist.

The most prominent federal prisoner in America dies under your justice department's supervision and you blame his death on your political opponents.

 

[candrew]

Prediction

Jeffery Epstein will be cremated very soon.

Of course for religious reasons or something...

Prediction - you're wrong.

 

[Gameface]

I like how the liberals minds go straight to it being a Clinton Conspiracy with no help at all(because its obvious as hell), but still choose to try to argue nothing to see here.

The denial and delusional is strong in these people. Anything to not agree with a conservative.

Your evidence that it's the Clintons is...?

I mean if you got something other than "it's obvious, duh!" let's hear it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

So apparently Epstein was taken off suicide watch on Friday, before he died on Saturday.
Video surveillance of his cell is being said to have malfunctioned.
It's not clear if there's going to be an autopsy or not.
The cause of death is quickly being called a suicide prior to investigation.
Suicides have historically been very, very uncommon at the Metropolitan Correctional Center.
Documents relevant to Epstein's case were unsealed in the past few days, and more evidence was expected to surface in coming weeks.
Victims were coming forward to give testimony and starting to name names.
The first round of oral arguments in the case were to be scheduled for mid-October.

The police department needs to come out and give some kind of forthright and credible explanation because this looks really bad. It's going to blow up.

Video surveillance malfunctioned?

Sigh

Where do you clowns get your information? Certainly not from any credible source. It’s still being investigated. Can’t y'all let the investigation to conclude before you go full tin foil hat?

 

[Gameface]

Video surveillance malfunctioned?

Sigh

Where do you clowns get your information? Certainly not from any credible source. It’s still being investigated. Can’t y'all let the investigation to conclude before you go full tin foil hat?

Yeah, I keep hearing this repeated and have to ask what the source is. If it's legit let's get the details that substantiate it. If it's some **** someone said on facebook or twitter, c'mon man. Just because you want something to be true doesn't mean it is.

 

[Deleted member 365]

But he was no average prisoner. That's the point. Incompetence has nothing to do with it.

Actually, incompetence is most likely at the heart of all of this. Even a prisoner of Epstein’s status can be neglected and permitted to kill himself because incompetent people took him off suicide watch and/or became distracted from tv monitors.

I know people like to imagine dark hidden forces cuz that’s what they see in the movies. But rarely (if ever) does that type of thing happen in real life.

 

[Getting Traded]

Actually, incompetence is most likely at the heart of all of this. Even a prisoner of Epstein’s status can be neglected and permitted to kill himself because incompetent people took him off suicide watch and/or became distracted from tv monitors.

I know people like to imagine dark hidden forces cuz that’s what they see in the movies. But rarely (if ever) does that type of thing happen in real life.

Well, then you would be likely to believe that it was police incompetence that let Ruby get close enough to Oswald to kill him. It was possible but once all the facts about Ruby's connections to the mob were made known it became obvious that something else had happened. So, we shall see if such an important prisoner was allowed to commit suicide because of incompetence. For one, what did he hang himself with? He had been on suicide watch and when that happens they remove anything with which the prisoner might harm himself. So, even if he was taken off it, you think they would've allowed him to have something which he could hang himself with? And just by coincidence the video camera malfunctioned. I can't believe it, especially knowing how corrupt the government is.

 

[Gameface]

Well, then you would be likely to believe that it was police incompetence that let Ruby get close enough to Oswald to kill him. It was possible but once all the facts about Ruby's connections to the mob were made known it became obvious that something else had happened. So, we shall see if such an important prisoner was allowed to commit suicide because of incompetence. For one, what did he hang himself with? He had been on suicide watch and when that happens they remove anything with which the prisoner might harm himself. So, even if he was taken off it, you think they would've allowed him to have something which he could hang himself with? And just by coincidence the video camera malfunctioned. I can't believe it, especially knowing how corrupt the government is.

He WAS NOT on suicide watch. He had been taken off suicide watch several days before.

If you want to make a case for this, use facts. Not "well, it's obvious, duh!" arguments.

 

[Getting Traded]

He WAS NOT on suicide watch. He had been taken off suicide watch several days before.

If you want to make a case for this, use facts. Not "well, it's obvious, duh!" arguments.

I changed it to "had been," but like I explained, you think then they're going to allow him to have a rope or whatever to hang himself with. He was just on suicide watch. Be reasonable. Or maybe you're like Thriller and thinking the prison officials are both incompetent and unreasonable. Well, I don't believe that, especially with such an important prisoner. Be gullible if you wish. But I can't believe it. He had rope burns around his neck from before. What do you think the prison officials and / or guards are that stupid?

 

[Gameface]

I changed it to "had been," but like I explained, you think then they're going to allow him to have a rope or whatever to hang himself with. He was just on suicide watch. Be reasonable. Or maybe you're like Thriller and thinking the prison officials are both incompetent and unreasonable. Well, I don't believe that, especially with such an important prisoner.

No, I think Thriller is making a pretty assumption rich argument as well.

I don't just believe things because I want to.

I don't know with any certainty at all what happened in that cell. I have no idea what happened. My imagination is not where I gather information in figuring out what did happen. So I will not be making specific claims about what I "know" happened or didn't happen.

It's called living in reality. A fact based existence where you have to have something tangible before you start making firm assertions about things.

 

[infection]

Then why the hell was it called pizza gate? That name was given to it by its originators. Every instance I saw of the pizza gate theory had Hillary Clinton at the dead center of the whole thing.

You’re not reading my posts, are you?

“Muslims believe X.”
“Muslims do not believe X.”
“Everything I’ve read and all my friends talking about it know that Muslims believe X.”
“Muslims do not believe X.”
“That’s not what I’ve heard.”

Yes, it was called pizzagate because of Comet Ping Pong Pizza. No. It had nothing to do with Hillary. No, just because because your news articles have repeated that doesn’t make it true.

From a year ago, here’s a good overview from “a truther” and the “father of conspiracy” himself. Even Alex Jones mentions exactly nothing about Hillary in relation to the pizza place:

Spoiler

None of this had anything to do with "pizza gate."

Again, you’re not actually listening to what it is I’m saying, are you?

 

[Getting Traded]

No, I think Thriller is making a pretty assumption rich argument as well.

I don't just believe things because I want to.

I don't know with any certainty at all what happened in that cell. I have no idea what happened. My imagination is not where I gather information in figuring out what did happen. So I will not be making specific claims about what I "know" happened or didn't happen.

It's called living in reality. A fact based existence where you have to have something tangible before you start making firm assertions about things.

Yeah, and we also need to use our brains and make "logical" assumptions. If you were a prison guard and a guy had just been taken off suicide watch because he supposedly had tried to hang himself (there were supposedly rope burns around his neck), the logical assumption is that a) the prison guard and his bosses would make doubly sure he didn't have anything in his possession with which he could hang himself or b) the guards and prison officials are so ****ing stupid and incompetent they need to be relieved of their jobs at once. Sounds like the reality you're living in, is la-la land, where someday you're going to go to heaven and live happily everafter with our benevolent creator.