Epstein is in Trouble

[infection]

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It's right friggin there. And one of the links that Kim Dotcom provided inludes a redditor "connecting the dots" to Hillary abducting children in Haiti, which was then amplified by the altright on twitter and elsewhere. I remember a lot of alt right goons spreading that nonsense around.

Kim Dotcom literally describes it as the Clinton/Podesta sex gang. Cmon man, this isn't that hard.

Did you read the article?

 

[Zombie]

Did you read the article?

Why are you being deliberately obtuse about this? I thought you weren't concerned with how the media portrayed it. In any case he linked to four articles so I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017...candal-and-how-media-attempted-ignorecover-it

If you are interested in articles now, here's an article from popular alt right zero hedge that alleges that actually it was Hillary's involvement in child abducting in Haiti that started pizza gate. And just for the heck of it here's a link to the reddit thread that wikileaks and others picked up on.

https://archive.is/CZP2F

 

[Red]

Intéresting essay...

Why are right wing conspiracies so obsessed with pedophilia?

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ing-conspiracies-so-obsessed-with-pedophilia/

"The McMartin preschool scandal of the 1980s was a sort of analog version of the more recent Pizzagate, part of a lurid and misbegotten moral panic about subterranean child abuse. Even though the supposed crimes unfolded thousands of miles and several decades apart, under very different circumstances, the two conspiracy theories share the same rough contours. The McMartin saga, which began in 1983 with accusations made by one boy’s mother, came to encompass fantastical claims about a massive pedophile ring lurking beneath a preschool in Manhattan Beach, California. Pizzagate was concocted during the 2016 presidential campaign and alleged that prominent figures in the Democratic Party were running a child sex ring in tunnels beneath the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in a residential Washington, DC, neighborhood. Both spun off into new theories: Amid a full-on national hysteria, McMartin spawned a series of day-care conspiracies, while Pizzagate has led to QAnon, an even wilder conspiracy theory that postulates that President Donald Trump is on the verge of arresting a throng of liberal elites for facilitating and participating in a sprawling child sex ring. Both drew on natural fears about child safety and supercharged them into national phenomena with real-world ramifications. Both of course were fictions."

 

[fishonjazz]

Maybe. Not sure how easy it would be though. Think about it. We have no idea what was used, how it was done, from where he hung himself. So many unanswered questions. It seems we are stretching credulity to find an excuse to corroborate what we're being told.

Exactly. We have no idea.
I keep you saying he hung himself to die.

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[Getting Traded]

And "prison" doesn't do the evaluation, a psychologist does.

Have you been following the actual info or just the propaganda.

Officials have been releasing information. None of what they say has to be true, but the starting point is to take their official statements and demonstrate how what they said is NOT true. None of you even seem to know what the official statements are, you don't care what they are, you're just pushing your bald assumptions as facts.

This comment suggests that everyone else who works at the prison is a dumb **** like you and can't think for themselves. Maybe they are, and if the psychologist tells them to give him a rope, some pills, and a revolver, it's ok because he no longer wants to kill himself.

 

[gandalfe]

This comment suggests that everyone else who works at the prison is a dumb **** like you and can't think for themselves. Maybe they are, and if the psychologist tells them to give him a rope, some pills, and a revolver, it's ok because he no longer wants to kill himself.

If they did deny him things like sheets even though the psychologist said it was OK, they would be setting themselves and the jail up for a serious lawsuit.

I think it's reasonable to ask why he was taken off suicide watch, if indeed he was. It is not reasonable to then ask why the guards followed protocol.

 

[Archie Moses]

Lol @ the people who get butt hurt over people sharing tweets or rumors on a discussion forum and acting like they can't discuss something until the investigation is over or like their sources need to be credited or can't be used. You know, because having a discussion on an online forum has the same standards for you has news organizations and college thesis and research papers.


Holy ****.


And no, this doesn't mean that I don't care about source credibility. Lol


Hehepeepeecaca

 

[Deleted member 365]

This comment suggests that everyone else who works at the prison is a dumb **** like you and can't think for themselves. Maybe they are, and if the psychologist tells them to give him a rope, some pills, and a revolver, it's ok because he no longer wants to kill himself.

No one is saying that everyone who works at a prison is a dumbass.

But it’s not a stretch to claim that prison workers aren’t the most educated or talented workers out there nor is it unreasonable to accuse our prison system of being horribly mismanaged.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Well, then you would be likely to believe that it was police incompetence that let Ruby get close enough to Oswald to kill him. It was possible but once all the facts about Ruby's connections to the mob were made known it became obvious that something else had happened. So, we shall see if such an important prisoner was allowed to commit suicide because of incompetence. For one, what did he hang himself with? He had been on suicide watch and when that happens they remove anything with which the prisoner might harm himself. So, even if he was taken off it, you think they would've allowed him to have something which he could hang himself with? And just by coincidence the video camera malfunctioned. I can't believe it, especially knowing how corrupt the government is.

Good grief. The warren court investigated this, found no conspiracy. Bugliosi did as well, found no sign of “deep state” conspiracy.

I don’t buy this conspiracy nonsense.

 

[Deleted member 365]

No, I think Thriller is making a pretty assumption rich argument as well.

I don't just believe things because I want to.

I don't know with any certainty at all what happened in that cell. I have no idea what happened. My imagination is not where I gather information in figuring out what did happen. So I will not be making specific claims about what I "know" happened or didn't happen.

It's called living in reality. A fact based existence where you have to have something tangible before you start making firm assertions about things.

Please tell me what my “assumption rich” argument has been? It’s funny because I’ve claimed that:

A. I want this to be investigated and will let the facts come out first. The timing and position of Epstein this makes for one of the better conspiracies out there.
B. I buy incompetence and mismanagement far more than any “deep state” hit job that the nutjobs are making accusations of.

It’s not a radical position to believe that the chances of someone unintentionally screwing up at the prison are exponentially greater than a paid off hit job to silence him from taking out the rich and powerful in trial.

If that’s “assumption rich” then I got nothing for ya.

 

[gandalfe]

Please tell me what my “assumption rich” argument has been? It’s funny because I’ve claimed that:

A. I want this to be investigated and will let the facts come out first. The timing and position of Epstein this makes for one of the better conspiracies out there.
B. I buy incompetence and mismanagement far more than any “deep state” hit job that the nutjobs are making accusations of.

It’s not a radical position to believe that the chances of someone unintentionally screwing up at the prison are exponentially greater than a paid off hit job to silence him from taking out the rich and powerful in trial.

If that’s “assumption rich” then I got nothing for ya.

So, Hanlon's Razor applies?

 

[Deleted member 365]

So, Hanlon's Razor applies?

I’ll take the chances of stupidity of prison workers over deep state inspired hits to silence Epstein. So yes.

Having said that, let’s investigate this thoroughly before we point fingers at the Clintons buying off the prison to take out Epstein.

I know this might shock the right wingers on here, but Hillary isn’t omnipotent. She failed to gain the DNC’s nomination in 2008. Then ran a poor campaign which ending up losing to the worst presidential candidate (with help from Russia) in history.

If the Clintons really were gods, Obama would’ve never been in the presidency, Fox News wouldn’t exist anymore, and those who reported on pizzagate would’ve already had their blood sucked out.