Epstein is in Trouble

[fishonjazz]

I'm suggesting it wasn't reported precisely because of partisanship. Main reason being that Bill Clinton is significantly more tied to Epstein than Trump is, and if anyone wanted to pick up the very legitimate Trump/Epstein story, it happened to be laced with a stronger Clinton connection, and I had always believed that it was a non-starter for the media and hence the silence.

Partisan for who? Seems like the conservatives should have brought it up to get Clinton. The Democrats should have ran with it to get Trump. The independent media should have ran with it to get em both.
I'm not seeing partisanship in this one


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[infection]

Partisan for who? Seems like the conservatives should have brought it up to get Clinton. The Democrats should have ran with it to get Trump. The independent media should have ran with it to get em both.
I'm not seeing partisanship in this one


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You just laid out hugely partisan arguments. I’m not going to accuse you of murder if you were my accomplice. I mean, I could, but it’d be pretty stupid.

 

[fishonjazz]

You just laid out hugely partisan arguments. I’m not going to accuse you of murder if you were my accomplice. I mean, I could, but it’d be pretty stupid.

No I'm saying that since no one cared maybe it's cause no one cared. Not because of partisanship.

To use your example, if you and I were accomplices to a murder and there was a third party (independent media, candidates, voters, people that are not Republicans or democrats and who aren't fans of Hillary or Trump, or people who actually hated both Hillary and Trump) to know about it but not be complicit then they will probably report it. Unless it was just that no one cared sadly.

What would be the reason for the independent media not to go after them? Were the independent parties and candidates accomplices as well? Maybe it's simply a case of no one cared. Sucks but maybe it's true.


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[infection]

No I'm saying that since no one cared maybe it's cause no one cared. Not because of partisanship.

To use your example, if you and I were accomplices to a murder and there was a third party (independent media, candidates, voters, people that are not Republicans or democrats and who aren't fans of Hillary or Trump, or people who actually hated both Hillary and Trump) to know about it but not be complicit then they will probably report it. Unless it was just that no one cared sadly.

What would be the reason for the independent media not to go after them? Were the independent parties and candidates accomplices as well? Maybe it's simply a case of no one cared. Sucks but maybe it's true.


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Independent media were the only who covered it. And if nobody cared, how does that explain the popular “grab them by the *****”? I mean, him speaking hypothetically about grabbing by the ***** vs. being credibly accused of not just grabbing by the *****, but rape. Of a minor.

 

[jazzrule]

Wouldn't have mattered.
Trump could rape a bunch of babies and then kill them in the middle of times square and the trumpers would still vote for him.

Yea

****ing partisanship sucks

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Yeah, you partisan liberal hacks ignore everything don't you. ANTIFA beats up a gay conservative reporter, steals his camera and no coverage on the liberal mainstream media, all the info coming down on Brennen, Clapper, Page, etc. etc. on spying on the Trump campaign with no real proof. I could go on for a hour easy.

 

[jazzrule]

Tell me Fishon since you think you are so smart. Why did so many people at the top of the FBI resign, got demoted, got reassigned or had to quit? Hey they were just doing what Obama wanted. You liberals are lily white right?

But I will give you socialist democrats credit, you are very smart at being devious. You bought up almost all the mainstream media and magazines. You put liberals in colleges and schools to brainwash the kids. Hey, lets have 16 year olds vote right Fishon. Hey let's give illegals drivers license so the have ID to register to vote. Hey, since a majority of prison inmates are black and ninety % blacks vote democratic let's push for them to vote. Hey, lets enlarge the supreme court so we can stack it with liberals. Hey, we want to stimi Trump trying to stop illegals from entering the United States, so let's get the ACLU to file lawsuits in the ninth circuit (liberal) court to stop him. Let Pelosi tell illegals how to avoid being arrested by Ice. We must protect our voter base right libs. Then you people call us partisan hacks for voting for Trump. Devils brew for you.

 

[fishonjazz]

Independent media were the only who covered it. And if nobody cared, how does that explain the popular “grab them by the *****”? I mean, him speaking hypothetically about grabbing by the ***** vs. being credibly accused of not just grabbing by the *****, but rape. Of a minor.

I guess one thing was right in our faces and obvious. The other wasn't.


Also, I don't know why nobody cared. I guess we are a country of deplorables. We should have cared. We didn't. I don't think it was because Hillary and Trump had tons of fans lol
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[fishonjazz]

Tell me Fison since you think you are so smart. Why did so many people at the top of the FBI resign, got demoted, got reassigned or had to quit? Hey they were just doing what Obama wanted. You liberals are lily white right?

No idea what you are talking about. Which is par for the course.
You don't make much sense.

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[One Brow]

I remember “grab them by the *****” being pretty big. But I suppose my memory fails. I guess raping 13 year olds was kosher then and I’ve just taken for granted that it’s only recently that it’s become taboo.

Perhaps not kosher, but definitely better tolerated when the 13-year-olds were hired for that purpose. In addition, at that point the Epstein case was 8 years old, and Trump was pump out new outrages every day. The media loves the new.

But heck, if you have bought into the notion that the media was trying to protect Clinton, probably reason is pointless anyhow.

 

[JazzGal]

https://lithub.com/in-patriarchy-no...on-jeffrey-epstein-and-the-silencing-machine/

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"...Maybe one of the reasons rape has so often been portrayed as “a stranger leaps out of the bushes” is so we’ll imagine rapists acting alone. But in so many cases rapists have help in the moment and forever after, and the help is often so powerful, broad, and deep—well, that’s why we call it rape culture, and that’s why changing it means changing the whole culture. Sometimes it’s the family, community, church, campus looking the other way; sometimes it’s the criminal justice system. If Jeffrey Epstein goes to jail for the new round of indictments—which only came about because one investigative journalist, Julie K. Brown of the Miami Herald, did an extraordinary job of digging up what had been buried in his case—a host of people who knew, laughed, looked the other way, allegedly helped him sexually abuse children for years will still be at large, and the circumstances that allow other Epsteins to attack other children will still exist."

 

[Gameface]

I think there's a difference between suppressing something and not covering something. You've seen three years now of throwing anything at Trump imaginable. Real, not real, fabricated, whatever. This stuff had legs back then. Why no coverage? IIRC, there was an active court case against Trump and Epstein around the election. Instead we're talking about how Trump may have started WWIII by accepting a phone call from the Prime Minister, or whatever, of Hong Kong.

Taiwan.

 

[Gameface]

I have never heard of this phone call

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Trump called the President of Taiwan shortly after his Inauguration.

Taiwan, also known as The Republic of China, is an island off the coast of China that many fled to after the communist takeover of mainland China. China (the People's Republic of China) considers this island part of greater China and intends to bring it back under their control. The U.S. in delicate negotiations with China adhered to the One China Policy, where we only officially recognized one official nation of China, the PRC. So we danced around the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue, until basically on a whim Trump called the Taiwanese President to say hi.

I'm cool with this **** if Trump is doing it with intent, and a plan, and understanding of the dozens of threads interwoven into the situation that spread all over the world and are part of many other diplomatic relationships. But Trump is a dumbass. He has proven that over and over and over. To give him info on these issues his staff has to draw pictures in crayon and put "Trump" all over them or he loses interest.