Following Potential 2020 draftees
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Game6Conley
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Game6Conley
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Off topic but this is worth posting somewhere and should have some trickle down ramifications in these draftee threads.
Chad Ford had Ryen Russillo on his podcast and they are doing a mock draft over multiple episodes. They simmed the lottery and are alternating picks. This was the outcome of the first episode...
1) Warriors - C James Wiseman, Memphis (Russillo)
2) Knicks - G Lamelo Ball, Illawarra (Ford)
3) Wizards - G Tyrese Haliburton, Iowa St (Russillo)
4) Hawks - G Killian Hayes, Ulm (Ford)
5) Cavaliers - F/C Obi Toppin, Dayton (Russillo)
They are doing picks 6-14 next episode
1) Warriors - C James Wiseman, Memphis (Russillo)
2) Knicks - G Lamelo Ball, Illawarra (Ford)
3) Wizards - G Tyrese Haliburton, Iowa St (Russillo)
4) Hawks - G Killian Hayes, Ulm (Ford)
5) Cavaliers - F/C Obi Toppin, Dayton (Russillo)
They are doing picks 6-14 next episode
Chad Ford is obsessed with Lamelo Ball. He keeps talking about how Lamelo Ball is the one player in this draft who has an elite skill... his playmaking/vision. Really? Anthony Edwards is an elite shot creator, especially for his age. Dude has the whole bag of tricks. What about Devin Vassell? If his off ball defense isn't "elite" it's really close. James Wiseman has a pretty elite size/athleticism combo. I mean there are some players with some skills and traits in this draft. He's overlooking them to prop Lamelo up.
I went back and watched footage from the Nike Hoop Summit 2 years ago when Bolmaro played for the World Team. He was 17. Bolmaro reportedly shot the ball well in practices and also shot well in the game. At the time, people thought his shooting was one of his strengths. That's why you can still find scouting reports that say he's a good shooter.
In related news, Josh Green is pretty athletic and can get downhill off the dribble more than he showed at Arizona this year.
In related news, Josh Green is pretty athletic and can get downhill off the dribble more than he showed at Arizona this year.
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And imo anyways, he's about 1/2 the athlete Lonzo is. I think Lamelo is really really talented but in terms of a run and jump athlete he's more Kyle Anderson than he is even late year post knee explosion Shaun Livingston.
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Finally we could have the final draft date according to the new nba schedule (it seems definitive)
He is more shifty in the hips than Lonzo imo. More agile.
I love Green. He needs to improve in off ball defense and defending screens but just 1 v 1 man up he's a really good defender. Offensively he didn't show much other than on the break and in spot up shooting. But he is young and he was on a team with Nico Mannion so he may not have been able to show everything he has.
Don't think he'll fall into the Jazz range but I'd love it if he did.
No he literally said it's the only elite skill in the whole class. He's said it multiple times over different episodes.
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I don't like the guards at the top of the draft except Hayes... and honestly I don't know much about him. The bigs are kind of interesting... but they are types I'd want maybe late lotto. There will be some good players obvi... but this draft reminds me a little of the 2013 draft. Might be some good finds in the middle/late first round.
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Just a reminder to everyone... Chad Ford has never been like really good or the best at this... he was the first kinda draft guy... doesn't mean he was the best. I like Schmitz, Vecenie, and even O'Conner better (even though Kevin seems to try and be a little different just to be different).
There's a legit chance that Bolmaro turns out to be a better player than Ball, if for no other reason than the fact that Bolmaro plays with competitive fire, he plays defense and his motor never stops. I think it's close to 50-50, though Ball is going to get a better chance to play as a primary guard.
It reminds me a bit when I thought Rudy Gobert would likely be a better player than Alex Len.
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I like Givony. Vecenie has clear opinions that he articulates very well, but his projections sometimes really miss the mark.
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Historically, the Jazz have put a lot of weight on pre-draft workouts. The guys who play hard and crush their workouts tend to be the guys the Jazz draft: Rudy, Donovan, Grayson, Gordon Hayward, etc. I wonder if there will be extensive draft workouts, as in years past.
If the Jazz somehow have a reasonable opportunity to trade up for RJ Hampton, I could see them doing it. Not sure what trade they could put together.
I'm coming around to the conclusion that Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10. There was a rumor that Hampton was slipping on some teams' draft boards, and that he could even go outside the top 15.
I'm coming around to the conclusion that Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10. There was a rumor that Hampton was slipping on some teams' draft boards, and that he could even go outside the top 15.
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Yup... Actually, It's consistently been that way with him from pre-season til now..
These people who **** on the quality of this draft, then project RJ Hampton outside the lottery definitely have it wrong.
I was up at 4am watching RJ in Australia, I thought he played much better than what many seemed to think...