Free Alec Burks

[jope]

I still believe Alec could do what tinsley is doing at this point, but with the added effect of being able to make something happen when the shot clock runs down. Get the ball across the half line, and dish it off? Alec can do this. Alec is at 6 asts per 36 mins, with a 23% ast%. Both good for 3rd best on the team. (Also hasn't turned the ball over once yet )... Not saying this will hold true with more minutes, but he IS capable of finding the open man, and is light years better than tinsley at scoring and staying with his man.

 

[Hartsock]

The point is..... we're all looking for ways to get Burks on the court, but nobody can agree on a situation.
What if Burks can hit shots at the rate he was hitting them in summer league and the pre-season? Can he then share minutes with Foye at SG?

If he is hitting them at his preseason rate he is a hall of famer ..... minue the free throws obviously

 

[NUMBERICA]

So when is Burks going to get a chance to develop some rhythm?
Or do we have to be up by 30 on a team to get him any time.

You're preaching to the choir. I think Burks should be in, and the debate should be about which two of Tinsley, Carroll, and Foye should get to play. Foye has been making a pretty good case, honestly. Tinsley still has his usefulness, too. And Carroll.

It's interesting. But I think that all things considered, Burks deserves the nod until he proves he's not deserving. Not giving him a chance is ****ing criminal.

 

[NUMBERICA]

How about everyone? He manages to do a lot of the things posters here suggest, he just does them when it's way too late.

-took him till game 4 of the 2012 playoff series to start Favors
-took him till game 4 to experiment with Carroll guarding Parker
-took him most of the season to realize that Burks deserved minutes over CJ and Braille
-it seems like they've ran Favors in the pick and roll a little more the past few games, as well as letting him play a face up/slashing game and less posting up. Something everyone has been saying to do for...how long?

These are just off the top of my head. I predict Corbin will eventually find more minutes for Burks by playing Foye and he together at the guard spots, he'll just get there at a snail's pace.

A good - even if kind of depressing - post.

 

[nightmare3983]

You're preaching to the choir. I think Burks should be in, and the debate should be about which two of Tinsley, Carroll, and Foye should get to play. Foye has been making a pretty good case, honestly. Tinsley still has his usefulness, too. And Carroll.

It's interesting. But I think that all things considered, Burks deserves the nod until he proves he's not deserving. Not giving him a chance is ****ing criminal.

I want Burks to play more like many of us here do, though I don't really like that logic. It's as bad as playing veterans just because they're veterans.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Have you even looked at Foye's history as a PG? His assist rate is terrible as a PG compared to bad passing PGs in the league.

He's a BAD POINT GUARD. History says this. He's a GOOD SHOOTING GUARD. Why do you want to turn a good player into a bad one?

He may be a bad point guard, but Tinsley is a terrible point guard these days. Foye couldn't possibly be any worse. At least the defense would have to guard him. He deserves a chance in the Jazz system.

Plus, that would allow Burks to play, who is also much better than Tinsley and will get even better with minutes.

 

[Hartsock]

He may be a bad point guard, but Tinsley is a terrible point guard these days. Foye couldn't possibly be any worse. At least the defense would have to guard him. He deserves a chance in the Jazz system.

Plus, that would allow Burks to play, who is also much better than Tinsley and will get even better with minutes.

I dont think you understand that sometimes putting 5 guys out there who are shoot first players is a bad idea. Not saying Tinsley isn't bad but he serves a purpose, bring the ball up and "attempt" give other player scoring opportunities. Burks and Foye don't do that, they shouldn't have to do that, its not their game. Tinsley could certainly be upgraded but I see what Ty is trying to do.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I dont think you understand that sometimes putting 5 guys out there who are shoot first players is a bad idea. Not saying Tinsley isn't bad but he serves a purpose, bring the ball up and "attempt" give other player scoring opportunities. Burks and Foye don't do that, they shouldn't have to do that, its not their game. Tinsley could certainly be upgraded but I see what Ty is trying to do.

Foye absolutely has done that throughout his career. He may not have averaged 12 assists per game at any point, but he's never had a problem getting the ball across half court abs passing it.

 

[Hartsock]

Foye absolutely has done that throughout his career. He may not have averaged 12 assists per game at any point, but he's never had a problem getting the ball across half court abs passing it.

Foye doesnt want to do that either man, he wants to shoot the freaking ball, a lot, thats his skill. Tinsley is an underrated passer, he controls the game, he cant shoot, score, or play d but he is a pretty good passer. He can get others involved, or at least he used to be able to. All I'm saying is Burks is not a PG at all, not even a little bit. An Foye is not much of a PG either. Tinsley is 100% PG, he is not great anymore but he doesn't screw everything up when he goes in the game either.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I can see why some would want Foye/Burks at PG instead of Tinsley, but consistency is going to suffer greatly for the 2nd unit if that happens. I would predict the 2nd unit offense would have games were it was just ugly basketball all the time. I think Tinsley brings a calming effect to the 2nd unit that is usually needed.

I would be interested in trying it out though just to see what happens. I would assume it would work some games, but I would also think we would have a lot more quick shots and just flat out wasted possessions.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Foye doesnt want to do that either man, he wants to shoot the freaking ball, a lot, thats his skill. Tinsley is an underrated passer, he controls the game, he cant shoot, score, or play d but he is a pretty good passer. He can get others involved, or at least he used to be able to. All I'm saying is Burks is not a PG at all, not even a little bit. An Foye is not much of a PG either. Tinsley is 100% PG, he is not great anymore but he doesn't screw everything up when he goes in the game either.

If Foye doesn't want to, then let Burks.

Anyone can bring the ball across half court and then pass it to someone else. That is all Tinsley does these days.

 

[Hartsock]

If Foye doesn't want to, then let Burks.

Anyone can bring the ball across half court and then pass it to someone else. That is all Tinsley does these days.

You clearly dont understand basketball. If that was all a PG did then there would be no such thing as a PG. We will just have to agree to disagree.