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fishonjazz said:
I would gladly take my bet too. Thing is, the changes that take place might be things that you and I wouldn't even notice.
Maybe the fine print isn't so fine in the future.
Maybe when you call to make your reservation, the person you speak with explains overbooking to you. (I have flown maybe 10-20 times in my life and had no idea about overbooking and the chance that I could be sitting on a plane about to go to Mexico and then have my seat taken away)
Maybe there changes made to how they determine who gives up their seat.
Maybe they have more training for their employees for these types of scenarios.
Maybe they increase the compensation for giving up their seats.
Maybe they still overbook but to a lesser degree and maybe get better at determining which flights are a greater risk to be underbooked or overbooked and act accordingly.
Etc etc etc

Hell there already has been a change made. An investigation is currently underway from what I understand. That in and of itself is a change stemming from this incident.
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Lol if anything, the fine print will have more stuff on it. Not less.

You've flown almost 20 and have no clue about overbooking? I don't even know how that's possible. Are you paying attention when they're offering up coupons, vouchers and cash? Some good deals to be had my man.

They'll tell people to get the situation taken care of prior to boarding, which I believe is already typical policy. I've never seen it after boarding. That was very dumb. But it's not much of a change.

It's not the airlines fault the guy got beat up. That was airport security. But what was the guy expecting? He ran back into TE plane without a ticket and thought they'd let him stay? He's just trying to get paid.
 
JustTheTip said:
Lol if anything, the fine print will have more stuff on it. Not less.
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Yep. That's another change that could be made. That's why I said etc etc. Lots of different changes might come from this.
 
fishonjazz said:
I can guarantee there are meetings in offices of airline companies all across the country and probably in other countries too discussing this issue and trying to think of ways to improve going forward.
Big wigs and office people love meetings.

I know that my company notices when another company in the food industry, especially dairy/yogurt specific, has an issue that goes public. I end up in meetings discussing that specific issue and we try to prevent the same thing from happening to us.

There was a huge recall on chobani yogurt a few years ago and it was discussed a ton at my plant and changes (mostly paperwork and critical control points and gmp's) were made to my job because of it.
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The older i get the more life turns into an endless episode of Dilbert. My work is pretty much the same, management is reactive, no improvement is driven by an internal culture of best practice but by a mentality of avoiding liability and bad press. Generally the culture is driven by the contradictory desire to shift responsibility downwards and concentrate decision making at senior levels. More or less a system that is designed to fail and those responsible for that are not held accountable.
 
fishonjazz said:
Yep. That's another change that could be made. That's why I said etc etc. Lots of different changes might come from this.
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Somehow I doubt it. Airlines could slap every customer who boards the plane and they would still have full rides the next day. You need to get to X location tomorrow and the only airline that is offering is United. Are you really not going to fly United?
 
JustTheTip said:
I mean, it's a change that isn't really a change. Nothing different is going to happen in the day to day.
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Ya, I don't know what type of change will happen. I do know that meetings are being held and changes are being discussed.
Big wigs and office people love meetings. It's a way to feel important for them. A way to make their degrees mean something. A way to justify their jobs.
I attend 2 meetings every single day. Plus a monthly, larger meeting. Plus a quarterly meeting. I'm on the bottom of the totem pole. I'm like the fryer operator at a fast food place in relation to my co-workers. In all these meetings there is about 5% of what gets discussed that matters to me. They could easily send an email and waste much less time and productivity. But that is a whole other topic. Managers love to waste time.

I guarantee that changes are being discussed and will be implemented whether big or small, important or unimportant, good or bad. I'm certain. That many people in the airline industry have a hard on over this and are excited to schedule some more meetings to talk about it.
We can agree to disagree though. I'm fine with that
 
JustTheTip said:
How much is too much money? Are we going to make a cap on how much we can earn? Why?

It's just a dumb statement meant to rile people up.
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We ain't puttin zero minimum standard of living so why put a maximum right?

Said it before, I live the simple life live in a 18' travel trailer grow or hunt or work with the local farmers for most my food (an make my moonshine shhhh). But hell to damned if I ain't takin those food stamps an social security. Now, I give most all that up to some of the local single mothers unless I'm really hard up but you git my point. No minimum standard so why make a maximum specially when most these billionaires now are all self made young money an the Buffett Pledge most them all givin it away anyway?

Who you wanna tax more? Elan Musk for all his innovation an forward thinking? Bill an Marylin Gates givin all there money away? Huntsman who founded the cancer institute an comes to the rescue with million dollar donations every time Utah has a funding crisis? Rockefeller s with all the foundations an museums an stuff the people of New York love?

Hell, these rich people are paying for my food stamps an they make the world a better, cheaper place an than they give all there money to Cheri ty. LEAVE THEM ALONE YOU LAZY GREEDY B STARDS.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Somehow I doubt it. Airlines could slap every customer who boards the plane and they would still have full rides the next day. You need to get to X location tomorrow and the only airline that is offering is United. Are you really not going to fly United?
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Yep
 
ONE LOVE said:
I'm not supporting what he did, if it were me I would probably just walk off quietly.



But sometimes it takes an action such as this to bring attention to a policy that to me seems really unfair to the consumers whether or not it is in the fine print. These airlines make much more from this policy at the expense of a lot of inconvenience on the part of the consumers. Just because nobody spoke up doesn't mean it's a fair policy.



I'm interested to see what the repercussion of this incident will be. United Airline's CEO promised an outcome from the study to be out April 30.
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I think it's ish overbookin but come off man.

Airline: we are offering you $3200 to sleep in a chair for 6 hours. That is $100 per hour for you, your wife, an each of your kids.

Sounds like a pretty damn good bargain to me an apparently the guy took it. WTS, this guy seems to maybe trying to live up to his hipocratic oath an doing ever think possible. I would not want sex druggie for my doctor but I can understand where he's coming from from that perspective.
 
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