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I find mysloef shaking my head in disagreement more with Trump and Cruz than anyone.

I'm behind in the debate but those two seem particualarly bad.
 
Stoked said:
I find mysloef shaking my head in disagreement more with Trump and Cruz than anyone.

I'm behind in the debate but those two seem particualarly bad.
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Agreed, add Kasich as well, he no longer has any business up there.
 
Bush has been made to look weak this debate so far. Over powered by Kasich repeatedly and pittied by Trump. Disasterous for him.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Well, so far they've graded 21 claims (which is a fair amount) and the breakdown is:

0 True (0%)
1 Mostly true (5%)
3 Half True (16%)
4 Mostly False (21%)
8 False (42%)
3 Pants on Fire (16%)

By comparison, you could look at Hillary, whom you have gone on and on about distrusting. Politifact has fact checked (over a much longer period of time) 133 statements by Clinton.

The breakdown on those is:

39 True (29%)
29 Mostly True (22%)
26 Half True (20%)
22 Mostly False (17%)
15 False (11%)
2 Pants on Fire (2%)

I suspect that's not the comparison you want to see, as a party, if you're planning on running on the trustworthiness issue. Of course, I'm sure the fact checkers are just biased.

EDIT: Hillary's "pants on fire" includes the hilarious "I landed under sniper fire" claim. Still embarrassing 7-8 years later.

Her statements re: Benghazi, which you have brought up multiple times, were given the same grade as Carson's claims about West Point: "Mostly True"
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I'm not a republican and I think republicans say dumb **** and lies like all the time, but politifact does have a strong Dem bias. So much so that I would rank politifact as useless. This is coming from a dude that listens to KCPW/KUER and little else in the car.
 
♪alt13 said:
You give the POTUS too much credit. We got through 8 years of Bush. After that I think we can get by with any prez.
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Seriously. We might just elect trump to show those candans how awesome we are at excelling through adversity.
 
Our greatest ally int he world is Isreal Kasich? I disagree.

I'd place at least England, France, Poland, Japan, Australia and Canada above them.
 
Stoked said:
Our greatest ally int he world is Isreal Kasich? I disagree.

I'd place at least England, France, Poland, Japan, Australia and Canada above them.
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Ask any republican and they say foreign policy revolves around Israel. So outdated.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Um, they have checked a variety of Hillary's statements on Benghazi and about the e-mail server. In my post above, I mentioned a claim about the Benghazi hearings. You seem to have just asserted that they've never checked any, which is kind of bizarre.

Here's a few statements on those topics that they've evaluated.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...n-says-john-kerry-was-first-secretary-state-/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ton-there-have-been-7-benghazi-probes-so-far/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...y-clinton-emails-wouldnt-be-public-if-i-hadn/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...n-campaign-benghazi-probe-congress-longest-i/
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Those probes you point to totally skirt the matter. She makes a claim of the number of Benghazi probes or the length of the probe. Who cares. What matters is whether her story about the video causing the riots was true or not. Rubio flat out called her a liar in the last Republican debate and again in an interview with Charlie Rose. Rose was stunned, as if he had no clue what Rubio was talking about. It seems beyond obvious to me that they should Politifact check what he said. Was Clinton caught in a lie or was Rubio lying about that? How come Politifact is checking these statements about Benghazi that don't matter and not paying an ounce of attention to the elephant in the room?
 
Finished this debate.

Rand Paul weirdly came out looking like the adult in the room.

Ben Carson truly and honestly has no idea what's going on. You could have swapped him out with Towlie from South Park and no one would have noticed.
 
well, I listened to the debate last night. I thought most of the candidates did well for themselves. Ben Carson is the real thing. Trump stands tall. Jeb is trying his best to pass for an acceptable conservative, which he isn't. Rand and Ted did a good job as well. Even Kasich was singing out the true conservative lines. Carly nailed Hillary: the very essence of crony politics and corruption. The Clinton way----lie.

really, after the whole private server lies, and the proven lies about the YouTube video "demonstration", when it comes right down it, nobody in their right mind can trust Hillary. Well, the dems will run her, and she might even win. But any of the Rep candidates would be better.
 
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