How white liberals view black voters

[Archie Moses]

Honest republicans freely admit that these rules are to suppress democrat votes. I know lots of them, they just don’t say it in public or they get ostracized.

I've never met one person who has said this nor can think of any that would. I highly doubt you "know lots of them."

 

[Archie Moses]

But that's because they firmly believe that Democrats engage in organized voter fraud...

Both parties, especially when they lose, believe in voter fraud or has something to bitch about that they perceive isn't fair.

 

[Archie Moses]

Kinda missing the point. The question is why should getting proof that you are who you are and legit difficult? Making it easy but effective seems to be the ethical answer. There are republicans who set out to make this process cumbersome so that fewer people vote.

I'm all for making a system that's less difficult to obtain an ID.

 

[silesian]

I'm all for making a system that's less difficult to obtain an ID.

me too. And I'm also in sensible checks to minimize fraud.

 

[Archie Moses]

me too. And I'm also in sensible checks to minimize fraud.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

If only all politics and policies were this easy.

 

[silesian]

I've never met one person who has said this nor can think of any that would. I highly doubt you "know lots of them."

Meet Rob Gleason

 

[silesian]

I've never met one person who has said this nor can think of any that would. I highly doubt you "know lots of them."

Meet Todd Albaugh:

Todd Allbaugh, 46, a staff aide to a Republican state legislator, attributed his decision to quit his job in 2015 and leave the party to what he witnessed at a Republican caucus meeting. He wrote on Facebook:

I was in the closed Senate Republican Caucus when the final round of multiple Voter ID bills were being discussed. A handful of the GOP Senators were giddy about the ramifications and literally singled out the prospects of suppressing minority and college voters. Think about that for a minute. Elected officials planning and happy to help deny a fellow American’s constitutional right to vote in order to increase their own chances to hang onto power.

 

[silesian]

I highly doubt you "know lots of them."

I guess I could be lying. Or maybe we travel in different circles?

 

[Zombie]

This is where I stand- if we can get a process in place that achieves easy, free, and accessible IDs for every American, then I have no problem with an ID requirement for voting. But that process has to be in place FIRST, and implemented over a number of years before we require ID for voting. To do otherwise is no less than a tax on voting that history suggests will keep underprivileged people from voting, which is totally unacceptable in my view.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Kinda missing the point. The question is why should getting proof that you are who you are and legit difficult? Making it easy but effective seems to be the ethical answer. There are republicans who set out to make this process cumbersome so that fewer people vote.

Your second sentence is unclear. Regardless, in my opinion it ought to be easy and inexpensive (or better yet free) to get ID. It seems like begging for fraud issues (which could negatively impact any candidate) to do away with the very logical requirement for ID.

 

[Gameface]

No, it is not. That is absolutely untrue. I talk to these people. Some of these people are actually on record saying that this is not true. They know that voter fraud is just a narrative they tell to their gullible base that gives them political cover for stopping legit voters from voting. No serious political insider believes in massive voter fraud. Some in the masses are dumb enough to believe their lie.

This is one of the reasons why I am no longer a Republican. It is shameful.

Republican voters believe there is massive organized voter fraud. See any of babe's post for evidence.

 

[silesian]

Your second sentence is unclear. Regardless, in my opinion it ought to be easy and inexpensive (or better yet free) to get ID. It seems like begging for fraud issues (which could negatively impact any candidate) to do away with the very logical requirement for ID.

Yep. No one is arguing for no voter ID. But the barriers and bureaucracy that are layered in are the problems. In some rural areas you have to travel 100+ miles to get the ID. It can cost hundreds of dollars to produce the paperwork required. So poor people blow it off.