Archie Moses
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Seems pretty reasonable to me.me too. And I'm also in sensible checks to minimize fraud.
If only all politics and policies were this easy.
Seems pretty reasonable to me.me too. And I'm also in sensible checks to minimize fraud.
I've never met one person who has said this nor can think of any that would. I highly doubt you "know lots of them."
I've never met one person who has said this nor can think of any that would. I highly doubt you "know lots of them."
I highly doubt you "know lots of them."
Your second sentence is unclear. Regardless, in my opinion it ought to be easy and inexpensive (or better yet free) to get ID. It seems like begging for fraud issues (which could negatively impact any candidate) to do away with the very logical requirement for ID.Kinda missing the point. The question is why should getting proof that you are who you are and legit difficult? Making it easy but effective seems to be the ethical answer. There are republicans who set out to make this process cumbersome so that fewer people vote.
Republican voters believe there is massive organized voter fraud. See any of babe's post for evidence.No, it is not. That is absolutely untrue. I talk to these people. Some of these people are actually on record saying that this is not true. They know that voter fraud is just a narrative they tell to their gullible base that gives them political cover for stopping legit voters from voting. No serious political insider believes in massive voter fraud. Some in the masses are dumb enough to believe their lie.
This is one of the reasons why I am no longer a Republican. It is shameful.
Your second sentence is unclear. Regardless, in my opinion it ought to be easy and inexpensive (or better yet free) to get ID. It seems like begging for fraud issues (which could negatively impact any candidate) to do away with the very logical requirement for ID.
Republican voters believe there is massive organized voter fraud. See any of babe's post for evidence.
Your second sentence is unclear. Regardless, in my opinion it ought to be easy and inexpensive (or better yet free) to get ID. It seems like begging for fraud issues (which could negatively impact any candidate) to do away with the very logical requirement for ID.
Umm, yes they are arguing for no voter ID. One Brow, for one, has suggested exactly that on multiple occassions in this very thread. Maybe you should go back and re-read. This is deja vu from another thread where someone claimed that nobody was arguing for open borders when, in fact, that was exactly what some people had been arguing for.Yep. No one is arguing for no voter ID. But the barriers and bureaucracy that are layered in are the problems. In some rural areas you have to travel 100+ miles to get the ID. It can cost hundreds of dollars to produce the paperwork required. So poor people blow it off.
If you read carefully we aren't arguing against voter ID in principle. There are practical barriers in place that need to be overcome to avoid an ID requirement from becoming a poll tax, or otherwise undue burden. Especially when you consider the problem it's meant to solve, voter impersonation, is vanishingly rare.Umm, yes they are arguing for no voter ID. One Brow, for one, has suggested exactly that on multiple occassions in this very thread. Maybe you should go back and re-read. This is deja vu from another thread where someone claimed that nobody was arguing for open borders when, in fact, that was exactly what some people had been arguing for.
Umm, yes they are arguing for no voter ID. One Brow, for one, has suggested exactly that on multiple occassions in this very thread. Maybe you should go back and re-read. This is deja vu from another thread where someone claimed that nobody was arguing for open borders when, in fact, that was exactly what some people had been arguing for.
I haven't used my ID in months. If I didn't drink then I wouldn't have used it in yearsCongrats on not needing prescriptions, smoking, changing jobs, entering casinos, renting a car, flying, renting a hotel room, needing state assistance...
Basically, everyone should probably have an ID to begin with. Outside of the voting issue entirely.
I’d like to see more connection between tribal IDs and state IDs.
I don't other than to buy beer every once in a while.You said so yourself and tried to play it off as if you don't use your ID. lol
You do.
ThisVoting is a right. You need to have an ID. Don't eliminate the IDs. Eliminate the costs to obtaining them for people who can't afford to pay.
Babe is an outlier. He doesn't represent a majority of anything.Republican voters believe there is massive organized voter fraud. See any of babe's post for evidence.
You said they are arguing for no id and then listed one brow. One brow isn't a they, he is a he.Umm, yes they are arguing for no voter ID. One Brow, for one, has suggested exactly that on multiple occassions in this very thread. Maybe you should go back and re-read. This is deja vu from another thread where someone claimed that nobody was arguing for open borders when, in fact, that was exactly what some people had been arguing for.
I don't other than to buy beer every once in a while.
If I didn't drink then I would never use it
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Again, if I didn't drink then I would never use it. Some people don't drink right? So some people don't really need or use it.Buying beer and being carded is still using it.
That and you carry it on your person everywhere you go including driving because you know it's common sense.
I, personally, understand it's annoying to have to get an ID and most of the times I use it are annoying and inconvenient, but I realize the importance of it.
I don't think that asking people who want to vote to have an ID is a bad thing.
Is the process too hard? I'd say harder for some than others, but certainly not impossible. If there is a way to make getting an ID easier and verifiable, then I hope it changes that way.