Interesting trade idea from Locke

[Urzajazz]

whatever. once all the recent champions locked in their one high draft pick guy, they filled in with FAs/trades and lucky low picks:

Lakers: Kobe + FAs/trades (Gasol, Odom, Artest/Ariza) + lucky low picks (Bynum)
Celtics: Pierce + FAs/trades (Garnett, Allen) + lucky low picks (Perkins, Rondo)
Spurs: Duncan + lucky low picks (Parker, Ginobili)

if Deron is our one high-pick guy, then KOC better figure out the FAs/trades and lucky low picks part of it (ie, draft a Bynum with this year's pick).

Pretty certain that Bynum was a Top 10 pick. Wouldn't call that "lucky low pick".

 

[kiri.de.carlos]

I say no.

 

[Beantown]

Looks like the Philly fans are not interested in this trade at all. They are even laughing at the idea of it. I guess they really like Elton Brand.

https://https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1016275

 

[Bodhi]

This is the reason the Jazz have never and are unlikely to ever win a title. You don't build the base of a championship through FA's. You do it through the draft with high draft picks.

THANK YOU! We are now borderline best friends...........

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Pretty certain that Bynum was a Top 10 pick. Wouldn't call that "lucky low pick".

#10. about the same as our pick this year, which is too low!

 

[m3at]

That's the only thing I've ever wanted to hear my whole life! How did you know?!

cause, it like...takes one to know one er sumthin?

 

[sirkickyass]

One interesting (I think) note:

It seems fairly likely that there will be major changes to the NBA CBA after this coming season (and, perhaps, a lockout). A lower cap/LT (and shorter guaranteed contracts) seem to be the most likely changes. If so, and because many contracts will already be in place, I would think there's a fairly good chance teams will get another chance at amnesty from a contract (like the Allan Houston provision). With this in mind (especially in the case there's a lockout), taking on a single long-term contract to move into the top 3 (Favors), or even to #4 (Cousins), looks even more attractive. Depending on what else the Jazz have to give up, taking on a "toxic" contract is probably worth it.

That's an interesting idea, but the proposal I've heard discussed more seriously is reducing player's contracts to meet the new CBA (e.g. if BRI share fell from 60% to 40% then player contracts would be reduced by 1/3rd). That proposal isn't nearly as sweet because it merely makes sure that you don't get super-penalized for having a currently bad contract. The current penalty, however, is preserved. Have you seen anything indicating that they will consider another Allan Houston like rule?

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Have you seen anything indicating that they will consider another Allan Houston like rule?

how would a new Allan Houston rule help the Jazz? under that rule, the contract still had to be paid in full, it just didn't count against the cap (and the team had to fire the player). do you really think the Millers could afford something like that?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

whatever. once all the recent champions locked in their one high draft pick guy, they filled in with FAs/trades and lucky low picks:

Lakers: Kobe + FAs/trades (Gasol, Odom, Artest/Ariza) + lucky low picks (Bynum)
Celtics: Pierce + FAs/trades (Garnett, Allen) + lucky low picks (Perkins, Rondo)
Spurs: Duncan + lucky low picks (Parker, Ginobili)

if Deron is our one high-pick guy, then KOC better figure out the FAs/trades and lucky low picks part of it (ie, draft a Bynum with this year's pick).

Don't worry. He'll get it done so there's no need to try to trade up now and get a Favors or Turner. He knows where that close and is waiting 'til next summer to get Marc Gasol or another potential cog in the wheel who's just dying to play here.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I doubt it had/has to be paid in full in cash, I just think the stipulation is to pay the entirety of he contract and probably on the same pay schedule.

Why would paying the entire contract in full immediately be the rule?

 

[theNBAnerd]

i'll admit that i raised my eyebrows a bit when i heard this discussed on kfan. on second thought, though, i realized it's not that great a move.

brand is a definite downgrade from boozer, on a variety of fronts. he's also older, has an ever more checkered medical profile, and just came off career lows in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots. he's at an age where he's not likely to bounce back, and that's without even considering the blown achilles. he hasn't shot over 50% since the injury and his PER (15.72) is that of a very average NBA player.

so you're giving up on bringing back two of the best 4 players on the team (AK and booz) as well as a greg monroe/xavier henry/gordon haywood type guy in exchange for evan turner and the right to pay the broken shell of a man i just described 50M over the next three years.

i'm a pretty big ET fan and i'd love for the jazz to get him... but replacing boozer with brand, monroe/henry/haywood with turner, and getting really nothing for kirilenko isn't what i would call forward progress.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

i'm a pretty big ET fan and i'd love for the jazz to get him... but replacing boozer with brand, monroe/henry/haywood with turner, and getting really nothing for kirilenko isn't what i would call forward progress.

the Jazz could actually get nothing for both Boozer and Kirilenko, if they walk after their deals are up. what kind of forward progress would that be?

or they could re-sign Boozer for 6 years. would you rather have Boozer for 6 or Brand for 3?