Its Time to Tank

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd love a trade with the Warriors to get Moody.

I would too but he is the least likely of their projects to be traded imo.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would too but he is the least likely of their projects to be traded imo.

Sure, but we have players who would be HUGE for them.

Kelly Olynyk with the Warriors? My god.

Beasley would be a great fit for them as well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Sure, but we have players who would be HUGE for them.

Kelly Olynyk with the Warriors? My god.

Beasley would be a great fit for them as well.

Salary match is tricky... like would they do Wiseman and Moody for KO? Likely want a pick on top of it...

I think they would cash in on Wiseman if they could... big side benefit is dropping 13M from the cap for next year... but I think he might be a bust and I doubt they'd move both guys unless they were doing a bigger deal.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Salary match is tricky... like would they do Wiseman and Moody for KO? Likely want a pick on top of it...

I think they would cash in on Wiseman if they could... big side benefit is dropping 13M from the cap for next year... but I think he might be a bust and I doubt they'd move both guys unless they were doing a bigger deal.

I would hate to have WIseman.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Most of my predictions are looking right my man. People overreacted to small sample size hot start.

They played better longer than they played meh so no

 

[Eddie Zero]

Bruh Ben is broke AF. They would jump at the chance to do that deal. We should not be touching his contract unless it comes with a sweetner... but he'd be a great tank commander and maybe a miracle happens.

I know some people have no faith in the young bull finding a place on this roster, and maybe he won't , But anyone trading for Ben the bum now, is committing career suicide on a Adam Silver platter. aka that type of blatant tank move, would get you handing over assets.
Simmons is the laughing stock of the NBA . He is still after all his therapy, afraid to shoot. I watched him warming up for a game, never took one single j. kept dunking and
looking around like he was in an empty gym. He has no respect from the players anymore either.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Nah I'm good to keep trying to win. Maybe after our home stand if things are not going well you can pull the trigger. That said anyone over 30 on this roster I'm okay trading if we get something decent in return.

 

[silesian]

Also major lolz at suggesting trading for Ben Simmons. He is the last player I’d want to trade for.

Include a nets protected first and waive him

 

[MTS]

Strong disagree... Klay and Poole have struggled but Steph has been electric... Kuminga and Wiseman have devastatingly bad

I thought we were talking about the 2020 Warriors. mb

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

Wondering is the early issue between Poole and Green are not part of it. Plus the fact that this team getting older. But Steph is just incredible.

 

[Tom349]

6-8 range is the "goal" of tanking... allows you a real shot at moving to the top 4 and will put you in a higher draft tier than 12-16 (which is where I think we end up).

When thinking about this team... how many players on the current roster will be helping us win games in 2 years?

- Conley - nope
- KO - maybe but he already slow and ground bound... plus would need a new contract (which could be a trap)
- Lauri - Fo sho
- JC - Maybe but needs a new deal to do that
- Sexton - Prolly helpful but not amazing.
- Vando - Young but he's a third big and will hit FA.
- THT - FA by then... maybe?
- Kessler - Fo sho
- Ochai - He might suck
- Simone - I think so but also FA by then.

Like there is just so little to hold on to long term here.

This is where Im at as well. For me its not a case of intentionally creating the worst team possible to increase our lottery chances but what is the point of keeping the likes of JC and Olynyk who are 30 plus and will cost to keep around in the event they are on the team in a couple of years time. Right now they're excellent trade pieces for teams with genuine chances of competing and we can accumulate more draft picks while also freeing up cap space if we trade them, with the added benefit that we likely get worse thus increasing lottery odds while also creating spot in the rotation for young players.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

6-8 range is the "goal" of tanking... allows you a real shot at moving to the top 4 and will put you in a higher draft tier than 12-16 (which is where I think we end up).

When thinking about this team... how many players on the current roster will be helping us win games in 2 years?

- Conley - nope
- KO - maybe but he already slow and ground bound... plus would need a new contract (which could be a trap)
- Lauri - Fo sho
- JC - Maybe but needs a new deal to do that
- Sexton - Prolly helpful but not amazing.
- Vando - Young but he's a third big and will hit FA.
- THT - FA by then... maybe?
- Kessler - Fo sho
- Ochai - He might suck
- Simone - I think so but also FA by then.

Like there is just so little to hold on to long term here.

Markkanen is entering his prime as an NBA player. There is no way he'll sign an extension with the Jazz if it's looking like he's gonna be doing nothing but losing on a tanking/rebuilding team.

A tank doesn't stop on a dime. No matter who you draft, the losing will most likely continue for years. Look at Orlando.